I think he's forgotten he did all this two years ago, and he's doing it all again. Maybe not so able to walk 5 miles when he's ding it now! He looks nearly as old as Tony Blair.
I am losing the will to live with Labour now, and all of the parties at Westminster apart from some in the SNP. Smith though is not very good, and not very smart by the sound of things, I totally get how he gets along with Kez to be fair.
Either way he certainly strengthens the argument for independence, as jim says, power devolved is power retained at the end of the day. We only get to make the wee decisions on how to spend our pocket money. My 9 year old has as much power as Nicola Sturgeon, does he buy the sweets and not the comic, does he buy some sweets and a cheaper comic or does he buy some sweets, a cheaper comic but when he goes to pay for it discovers I have cut his pocket money after a dicussion with the senior cabinet (his Mum and the ultimate boss) but offer him an increase for a week but give him even less the next week so all he can buy is the comic but out of a cheaper shop or under my PFI rules which I follow the Gordon Brown method so my 9 year old actually owes me £300 Billion Pounds or there abouts.
The only way for Scotland to get ahead is independence, anything less is servitude to Westminster and the high quality decision making of the likes of Smith, Lord help us.
Brilliant Bruce... We are falling about laughing at the notion of your lad owing the PFI debt. Munguin says he'll lend him the money on very generous terms!!
Hmm, income tax powers were devolved in the 2012 Scotland Act. How could he not know that? To be fair, he probably knows a lot about the topics that interest him. I'm just the same ... but I'm not a career politician attempting to be the leader of the opposition with a view to becoming Prime Minister. This should interest him, right?
None of them ever know much about Scotland, Jim. Even Gordon Brown who is, if not Scottish, at least North British. I recall that he wanted to have a Great Britain Day or UK Day or something, and he proposed that it should be held on August Bank Holiday. That will be the August Bank Holiday that Scotland doesn't have!!!!!
Nope, Scotland doesn't register on their radar, probably even less now.
None of us knows that much I guess, Terry, but as you say, if you want to be prime minister of the UK, you should have a handle on ALL of the UK; not just London its environs.
Most specifically, if you are coming to Scotland and intending to sell your position on Radio Scotland, it might be an idea to have an inkling of what Scotland is about.
By anyone's standards he was badly prepped for this interview. If he's not interested in Scotland, but only in the votes of the Scottish Labour members (or at least those who have not been disqualified from voting) he should have stayed off radio and talked to activists. As it is he came over as ignorant, and a prat.
As for not knowing about the income tax devolution... absolutely amazing.
I do expect him to be prepared for a major interview about Scotland. I can well imagine that he has advisors who prepare summaries and crib sheets and then role-play the interview with him. Maybe he is just bad at this (not a good sign in a prospective party leader) or has poor advisors. Who are the advisors? Isn't John Mcternan involved somehow or other?
Here I go off-topic again. Who upset our Dean? He is on the Scotsman claiming that he enjoys watching seps suffer. Apparently seps sit in tartan slippers listening to 'choukter' radio. I think he possibly means 'teuchter' so BBC Alba will be chuffed to have over two million listeners!
Erm... am I being particularly think tonight? Should I know what "seps" are? Is it something really cool and down with the kids... cause it's a bit too late for that for me...
I did look it up and came up with a few possibilities, one of which was 'The City's Special Exit and Prevention Supplement (SEPS) program' and another, Slovenská elektrizačná prenosová sústava, a. s. (SEPS).
Doubting it was either of them that were listening to what my granny calls "hoochie tunes", I looked farther and found...Seps (legendary creature), a snake from medieval bestiaries, with extremely corrosive venom that liquified their prey; Tetradactylus, ... but i wonder if they are really into "teuchter" or even "choukter" music.
Sighned Mystified of Munguin Towers.
PS: The next thing I want to know is what on earth is wrong with tartan slippers?
PPS: Anyway, I dunno what's wrong with him. He's been crabby as hell recently.
Doc Ostrow: Owwn Smith was too close to the problem. The new Labour Krell had completed their project. Big capitalist machine. No humanity. True creation.
Commander John J. Adams: Come on, Doc, let's have it.
Doc Ostrow: But the new Labour Krell forgot one thing.
Commander John J. Adams: Yes, what?
Doc Ostrow: Monsters, John. Monsters from the new Labour Id.
Commander John J. Adams: The Id? What's that? Talk, Doc!
To all nat extremists you know who you are The Scottish peoples were asked who should Govern Scotland the Scottish Parliament ALONE or Westminster to remain supreme.
The result was under an snp organized plebiscite freely asked freely given was Westminster to remain supreme..A FACT GET USED TO IT
Of course, you fail to mention that we did also want to be in Europe and voted as such, we wanted our pensions to be safe but now some Tory m'lady tells us that we can't afford them, and we did vote to have no more army bases closed, be building frigates, have the civil service jobs in tax and passports which would defiantly have left for England if we had voted no (and been replaced by Scottish civil service jobs) but which left anyway to go to London, and a pile of other things they absolutely promised and failed to provide. Even old Gordo said.
I always got the impression that Owen Smith was running on the 'I agree with Corbyn but I can win' line. He seems to have signed up to most of the Corbyn policy agenda.
Although, big plus for Owen...he'd sack Diane Abbot! :D
PS... go read Terry's post on David Davies' understanding of what signing up trade deals is actually about. It's fascinating. Let us know what you think...leave a comment on the post.
Get into the back of the bus Kezia.
ReplyDeleteWoman, know your place!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w
Power devolved, is power retained; it's the Westminster way.
ReplyDeletePresenter, so there's no point in "Scottish" Labour?
Owen Smith, not really; that's the nature of SLab/BLiS.
There is, indeed, he's right. There's no point in them.
DeleteI hope he wins. Whoever he is.
ReplyDeleteIndeed. Who is he.
DeleteBut but but... Gordon says we're the most devolved country in the universe.
ReplyDeleteHe's the most devolved person in the country.
DeleteI think he's forgotten he did all this two years ago, and he's doing it all again. Maybe not so able to walk 5 miles when he's ding it now! He looks nearly as old as Tony Blair.
Tris
ReplyDeleteI am losing the will to live with Labour now, and all of the parties at Westminster apart from some in the SNP. Smith though is not very good, and not very smart by the sound of things, I totally get how he gets along with Kez to be fair.
Either way he certainly strengthens the argument for independence, as jim says, power devolved is power retained at the end of the day. We only get to make the wee decisions on how to spend our pocket money. My 9 year old has as much power as Nicola Sturgeon, does he buy the sweets and not the comic, does he buy some sweets and a cheaper comic or does he buy some sweets, a cheaper comic but when he goes to pay for it discovers I have cut his pocket money after a dicussion with the senior cabinet (his Mum and the ultimate boss) but offer him an increase for a week but give him even less the next week so all he can buy is the comic but out of a cheaper shop or under my PFI rules which I follow the Gordon Brown method so my 9 year old actually owes me £300 Billion Pounds or there abouts.
The only way for Scotland to get ahead is independence, anything less is servitude to Westminster and the high quality decision making of the likes of Smith, Lord help us.
Bruce
Brilliant Bruce... We are falling about laughing at the notion of your lad owing the PFI debt. Munguin says he'll lend him the money on very generous terms!!
DeleteHmm, income tax powers were devolved in the 2012 Scotland Act. How could he not know that? To be fair, he probably knows a lot about the topics that interest him. I'm just the same ... but I'm not a career politician attempting to be the leader of the opposition with a view to becoming Prime Minister. This should interest him, right?
ReplyDeleteHe'll be the same as the rest, from Westminster based parties, not interested in Scotland.
DeleteNone of them ever know much about Scotland, Jim. Even Gordon Brown who is, if not Scottish, at least North British. I recall that he wanted to have a Great Britain Day or UK Day or something, and he proposed that it should be held on August Bank Holiday. That will be the August Bank Holiday that Scotland doesn't have!!!!!
DeleteNope, Scotland doesn't register on their radar, probably even less now.
None of us knows that much I guess, Terry, but as you say, if you want to be prime minister of the UK, you should have a handle on ALL of the UK; not just London its environs.
Most specifically, if you are coming to Scotland and intending to sell your position on Radio Scotland, it might be an idea to have an inkling of what Scotland is about.
By anyone's standards he was badly prepped for this interview. If he's not interested in Scotland, but only in the votes of the Scottish Labour members (or at least those who have not been disqualified from voting) he should have stayed off radio and talked to activists. As it is he came over as ignorant, and a prat.
As for not knowing about the income tax devolution... absolutely amazing.
Angela Eagle was a mastermind by comparison.
I do expect him to be prepared for a major interview about Scotland. I can well imagine that he has advisors who prepare summaries and crib sheets and then role-play the interview with him. Maybe he is just bad at this (not a good sign in a prospective party leader) or has poor advisors. Who are the advisors? Isn't John Mcternan involved somehow or other?
DeleteWell, if it's Mcteacake, then that explains everything.
DeleteThe guy was doomed from day 1
No wonder he comes across informed as much as a pancake without jam.
He needs to get to know what he's talking about, anticipate questions and have answers and not make up stuff as he goes along.
All good though. He's history, with a bit of luck.
Here I go off-topic again. Who upset our Dean? He is on the Scotsman claiming that he enjoys watching seps suffer. Apparently seps sit in tartan slippers listening to 'choukter' radio. I think he possibly means 'teuchter' so BBC Alba will be chuffed to have over two million listeners!
ReplyDeleteErm... am I being particularly think tonight? Should I know what "seps" are? Is it something really cool and down with the kids... cause it's a bit too late for that for me...
DeleteI did look it up and came up with a few possibilities, one of which was 'The City's Special Exit and Prevention Supplement (SEPS) program' and another, Slovenská elektrizačná prenosová sústava, a. s. (SEPS).
Doubting it was either of them that were listening to what my granny calls "hoochie tunes", I looked farther and found...Seps (legendary creature), a snake from medieval bestiaries, with extremely corrosive venom that liquified their prey; Tetradactylus, ... but i wonder if they are really into "teuchter" or even "choukter" music.
Sighned Mystified of Munguin Towers.
PS: The next thing I want to know is what on earth is wrong with tartan slippers?
PPS: Anyway, I dunno what's wrong with him. He's been crabby as hell recently.
He's a deluded Tory, and I'm a proud sep(aratist).
Deleteahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
DeleteHow thick am I?
Why would Dean want to watch seps suffer. He's a sep.
DeleteMaybe don't answer that.
I'm probably too young to know the answer, and Munguin most assuredly is.
ReplyDeleteDoc Ostrow: Owwn Smith was too close to the problem. The new Labour Krell had completed their project. Big capitalist machine. No humanity. True creation.
Commander John J. Adams: Come on, Doc, let's have it.
Doc Ostrow: But the new Labour Krell forgot one thing.
Commander John J. Adams: Yes, what?
Doc Ostrow: Monsters, John. Monsters from the new Labour Id.
Commander John J. Adams: The Id? What's that? Talk, Doc!
[Doc slumps and dies]
Commander John J. Adams: Doc?
Commander John J. Adams: [sadly] Oh, Doc. Doc.
Can you draw? Maybe you should do strip cartoons... Note I said CARTOONS, not strip.
DeleteTo all nat extremists you know who you are
ReplyDeleteThe Scottish peoples were asked who should
Govern Scotland the Scottish Parliament
ALONE or Westminster to remain supreme.
The result was under an snp organized
plebiscite freely asked freely given
was Westminster to remain supreme..A FACT
GET USED TO IT
Well, that's what we got.
DeleteOf course, you fail to mention that we did also want to be in Europe and voted as such, we wanted our pensions to be safe but now some Tory m'lady tells us that we can't afford them, and we did vote to have no more army bases closed, be building frigates, have the civil service jobs in tax and passports which would defiantly have left for England if we had voted no (and been replaced by Scottish civil service jobs) but which left anyway to go to London, and a pile of other things they absolutely promised and failed to provide. Even old Gordo said.
I always got the impression that Owen Smith was running on the 'I agree with Corbyn but I can win' line. He seems to have signed up to most of the Corbyn policy agenda.
ReplyDeleteAlthough, big plus for Owen...he'd sack Diane Abbot! :D
Who knows what he's running on, least of all him.
DeleteAnyway, can you tell us all what you were going on about on teh Scotsman...
DeleteTeuchtar music, tartan slippers and Seps, whatever they are...
PS... go read Terry's post on David Davies' understanding of what signing up trade deals is actually about. It's fascinating. Let us know what you think...leave a comment on the post.
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