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| Look... a socialist (about to leave parliament?) |
Diane Abbott
Ronnie Campbell
Katy Clark
Michael Connarty
Jeremy Corbyn
Kelvin Hopkins
Glenda Jackson
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| Goodness...another socialist (about to leave parliament?) |
John McDonnell
George
Mudie
Linda
Riordan
Dennis
Skinner
Tom Watson
Mike Wood
The rest of you make us sick. (Please note the clever and subtle colour coding.)
We hope very much that one day you will need a hand up (although frankly we doubt you will), and, although we are not proud to feel this, nonetheless we cannot lie, we most fervently hope that you don't get one.
The government has excluded pensions from the benefits ceiling, because even Tories, thick and out of touch though they are, know that if you risk pensioners' payments you risk the next election.
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| This woman is either so hypocritical or so dense. Have a read of this and enjoy a good laugh. |
They have also excluded benefits paid to unemployed people possibly because the fit, unwaged can riot something horribly, as they found to their cost a few years ago when Cameron was obliged to return from his Tuscan villa to sort of Tessy May's mess.
The people this will hit hard are their beloved strivers: people working on minimum wage, but living in accommodation where the rent is higher than their take home pay; people working part time because there are no full time jobs; and people who are disabled or ill and their carers.
I suppose it should come as no shock to us that Labour wholeheartedly agreed with the Tories. Why would they not think that people, already horribly disadvantaged, should be beaten over the head with a stick by a set of greedy lowlife.
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Let's not forget that MPs will all be enjoying an 11% pay rise shortly (at our expenses), that they all can enjoy cheap food and drink (at our expense) including the many who, despite the furore over their being caught stealing with abandon, are still on the fiddle over their expenses... and who, when they are taken to task about expenses, reduce staff to tears and resignation... so they get away with overspending and sending their purchased goods to the wrong address.
Labour: the party of the working banker, royal and MP and top businessman.
The thing that I find so amazing is that last week they were all "Keir Hardie" and "Keep the Red Flag Flying Here" and Alex Salmond's just like the Tories, comrade, as we were enjoined to celebrate their return to socialism.
They couldn't even keep it up for a whole week.
Pinko Tory bastards.
The Labour party in Scotland is a busted flush and may the all end up in the sewers to be broken down and recycled into compost where we can tread all over them on our way into a brighter future.
ReplyDeleteHow very green of you CH!
DeleteWaste Not: Want Not.
All waste has a use.
DeleteSorry for going O/T so early on Tris but I couldn't hold this one back. LOL
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Don't apologise from going off topic... the off topics are often much more interesting that the topic! :)
DeleteCorker... I wonder if they have only just realised that.
Labour screaming last week about how red they were, and they vote to dismantle one of their core values... and the interesting thing is that it is the working poor that they will hot, so even right wingers like Harris cannot claim that it's hitting at the lazy something for nothing scum that he so much loathes as a labour MP.... although I'd have thought that being a Scottish MP was getting something for nothing... because at the end of the day, no matter what party they are from, they do a great deal less than their English counterparts.
Anyway, I note that in the SCOTTISH Daily Mail, Couthard, for all his money, is afraid to live in London, so he is going to live in Monte Carlo... and they Mail is showing people how to make money out of the property boom, (the one that will cause the next financial crash). As fart as I can make out the property boom is happening in London. That's going to be useful to people living in Perth or Motherwell!
Hansard records that Douglas Alexander and Russell Brown (Dumfries & Galloway) also voted to throw more people into poverty. Katy Clark was one of the tellers of the vote. Weirdly, Jim Sheridan spoke but didn't vote while Sheila Gilmour and Anne McGuire both spoke then voted in support of cutting benefits to the poorest. Film our and McGuire must have been very impressed by Osborne and Danny Alexander's arguments. Still, that seems to be Labour socialism. Makes you proud.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if we could rewrite the words to the Red Flag to bring in the words "blue", "land of hope and gory" (not a spelling mistake), "our" adn "England"....?
DeleteBut yes... it makes Sarwar and Lamont's claims of socialism look a bit weak. Iain McWhirter's column was really good. I've copied it down below.
Tris
ReplyDeleteThere is no Labour Party anymore, they were on life support but have now died and their passing will be felt most by the people they were supposed to protect. These people became the ones the Labour dogs turned on, may they all rest in Hell
Bruce
LOL Good expression there Bruce... Rest in Hell. I suspect people who consistently lie will have their own particular hell to deal with. These people are traitors to the working classes which they calime to represent.
DeleteAgain, I wpouldn't mind so muich if they were actually hitting the npeople we know who DO abuse the system, but they are not.
If they want to save money on Social Security they need to introduce rent controls so that people living in slums can't be charged the massive rents that landlords (many MPs and lords) are getting away with.
But that would hurt too many rich people making a fortune out of the system. So instead they hit a person working 235 hours at minimum wage with a rent of £150 a week.
They should be finished, but there will still be people who proclaim them the party of the working man... WHIT?
Iain McW....
ReplyDelete"""Party that made the welfare state has lost its credibility
Iain Macwhirter, Columnist, Thursday 27 March 2014
There are now only two things the Tory and Labour front benches in Westminster agree upon:
that Scotland should not be allowed the pound after independence, and that social security spending should be capped permanently, irrespective of need or changing circumstances. As the Daily Telegraph put it: "Osborne has marked the borders of Benefits Land".
You have to hand it to the Chancellor: the original £26,000 benefits cap was a stroke of propaganda genius. Who could object to a policy that limited individual benefit entitlement to average wages? It was popular in Scotland as everywhere else, even though only a handful of claimants were affected.
But it was only the first step. Yesterday, an overall cap on the UK benefits bill of £119 billion was passed overwhelmingly by Westminster, by 522 votes to 22 with the support of the Labour Opposition. Only the SNP and a handful of Labour rebels like Diane Abbot voted against the cap, which will cover everything except jobseekers' allowance. In fact Labour now claims to have thought of it first.
Of course, Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls says not to worry - the cap just means that if a future government wishes to increase it above £119bn, there has to be a vote in parliament. But this is naïve or disingenuous; it will be politically very difficult to break this cap now it is in place. Yesterday's vote in Westminster is of much more than symbolic importance.
Labour is now on record as accepting the logic of an indefinite limit on welfare, something no party has ever proposed before because it locks in unfairness and penalises those least able to look after themselves. When Labour next attempt to abolish the bedroom tax they will be asked: what else are they going to cut to meet the £400m cost? Disability benefits, sickness, child benefits?
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ReplyDeleteAs the Conservative commentator Matthew D'Ancona put it, yesterday's vote represents "a momentous punctuation mark in the history of the post-war state". And the Chancellor is even now contemplating the next stages of the welfare squeeze. First, as Iain Duncan Smith has already indicated, there could be a regional cap on individual benefits. Why should it be £26k in Scotland when average wages are much lower than that here? Then Osborne is planning to put a further £12bn cut in social security spending in the Tory manifesto for 2015. He'll argue that, if NHS spending is to be protected, the benefits bill must be trimmed, and Labour will find it difficult to disagree. It will now be political suicide to go into the election campaign calling for higher welfare spending.
This is what a race to the bottom really looks like. And it's not as if the policy makes much administrative sense. If the birth rate increases child benefits will have to be cut. Housing benefit will not take account of rising rents. Universal Credit is supposed to be introduced next year by the Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith. The idea is to cut through the macrame of benefits and make a simpler system. But how will this work when some elements within Universal Credit are capped like child benefit and housing benefit and others like jobseekers' benefit are not?
Labour insist they are only responding to public opinion, which has hardened against welfare, and that benefits will not be cut further in real terms. However, once again, this is disingenuous. The cap allows spending to rise with CPI inflation, not RPI. This still means a fall in real terms because the cost of basics like food is rising much faster, at nearer 5% in recent years. Claimants have already seen their benefits eroded by below-inflation increases in recent years. Around £4.5bn has been taken out of benefits in Scotland alone in the current spending round to 2015/16. This can never be recovered. And remember, the biggest increase in the benefits bill is for the working poor who do not earn enough to raise their families. The benefits bill locks unfairness into the heart of the welfare system.
There is a very disturbing historical precedent here. In 1981, when the Conservatives broke the link between the state pension and increases in average wages, there was initially little public concern. After all, it was said, pensions would still rise with inflation so pensioners wouldn't lose out. But within a decade, the state pension had become so low relative to pay, that even Tory Treasury Secretary Michael Portillo admitted it had become "nugatory" and was causing real hardship.
Pensioners were left at the mercy of a brutal means test to secure enough to live on. This unfair system remained in place until 2012 when the government agreed to introduce a new flat rate state pension and pensioners were given the triple lock to ensure their living standards never fell behind again. Pensioners are now part of the deserving poor, again. They will get upratings based on RPI OR rising wages OR 2.5%. It is to be younger people on tax credits and child benefits who are to be squeezed. And yet there has been remarkably little discussion of this in the media, despite the historic significance of yesterday's vote. There is a fear voters just will not tolerate sympathy for people on Benefits Street.
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ReplyDeleteNow at this point I would usually write something about how different the situation is in Scotland. Scots do not show the same degree of hostility to benefit claimants as people in the South of England, partly because most Scots have less wealth and are only a redundancy away from living on Benefits Street themselves. However, I would caution all those on the left of the independence debate who assume the benefits cap is unpopular here. This is because Labour has, through its actions in Westminster yesterday, legitimised the Conservative welfare agenda. The party that created the welfare state has lost the ability to defend its fundamental principles.
If Labour can't defend benefits, who can? Welfare is not devolved to Scotland and there is no obvious way in which the Scottish Government can mitigate the impact of these reforms. No doubt Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont will continue to claim the cuts are, in some mysterious way, the fault of the Scottish Government and Alex Salmond in person. But that is going to be a very hard argument to sustain after yesterday's vote.
Meanwhile, Scottish charities say all the progress made in eradicating poverty since 1999 has been thrown into reverse. Food banks can't keep up with demand; young people are unable to leave home, disabled people are losing essential benefits; and more people are now experiencing multiple deprivation in Scotland than in 1983.
Labour in Westminster were congratulating themselves last night for avoiding the Tory benefits "bear trap". But they have lost something much more valuable: moral credibility. Last week, Ed Miliband accused Mr Salmond of mimicking Tory policies and abandoning social justice; this week the Labour leader stands accused of gross hypocrisy."""
http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2014/03/26/labours-red-mist/
ReplyDeleteSorry Tris I'm going you know where again. LOL
ReplyDeleteFMQ's is usually great fun to watch as the First Minister skewers Lamont week afdter week. However, she was not at FMQ's yesterday she was in London at Tony Benn's funeral. This lead to the great debate...who would be leading Labour's *ahem* 'attack' at FMQ's. Well the answer is clear, it was none other than the great liar herself Jackie Baillie!
http://tinyurl.com/nkr9dn9
I wonder if she managed to say one true thing... She's not known for it.
DeleteExcuse my last comment.
ReplyDeleteFolk like him make me mad.
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