Someone on my Twitter feed directed me to this article by Richard Baker, which is hardly interesting in itself, except that he, as a candidate for Deputy Leader of Labour in Scotland, appears to wish to stay subservient to London (maybe because it has been so successful in the past, or maybe not! More probably because he has been told by London that that's what he has to say, or they will brief against him).
Far more interesting than his article was this reply post by Annette, which I have lifted from the original site, without her permission. I hope she will forgive me. It seems to me that maybe someone is Labour should read this carefully and maybe act upon it.
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Annette says:
I am so tired of the word “nationalism” being branded about
by Labour. And, oooh, they inserted the word “patriotic” in their constitution,
how quaint. Personally, I don’t give a toss about patriotism and nationalism. I
am an EU citizen living in Scotland and I voted YES because it is my firm belief
that every country has a right to political self-determination and should not
be ruled by another country.
This is something that I suspect most Labourites
would in theory agree to, because it makes them sound noble, but when applied
to Scotland, they suddenly get a hissy fit at the notion of someone “wanting to
break up our country.” The only explanation I can find for this behaviour is
that they believe Scotland is not a country.
I’m going to help you out here, Labour, because I have
watched your decline for a long time and it seems clear that you have not the
foggiest idea where you have gone wrong. That is why almost everything you did
to improve your prospects has only made things worse. So let me try to explain,
and let me tell you in advance that everyone I have spoken to over the last few
days agrees with me. Not because I am so super-clever, but because it is
blatantly obvious. Only Labour seem to be unable to see it.
Forget Blairism. The con Blair pulled off worked once, but
it will not work again in our lifetime, because there are things people don’t
forget. Blairism gained Labour the support of a certain number of swing voters
and that helped you as long as your core supporters loyally stood by you.
Whatever made you think, though, that you could give up the goals and values of
your real clientele and that nevertheless they would keep voting for you
indefinitely?
Sure, many people feel loyal to a party and are patient with it,
and there is a certain inertia that needs to be overcome before some voters
desert their traditional party. But if that party continually fails to
represent their supporter’s interests, these supporters will eventually walk
away. The sentence I heard again and again and again these last few months was
this: “I have not left Labour, Labour have left me.” That is the core of the
problem.
So listen to me well, Labour Party, because if you get this
wrong again you will be done for, once and for all: Don’t try to appeal to Tory
voters. Tory-leaning voters might vote Labour as a one-off protest vote, but by
pandering to them you alienate the people that are your natural clientele. For
a few years that might work out, but eventually the Tory-leaning voters will
return to the Tory fold and your own supporters will decide you’re just not
worth it anymore.
If they have any sense, they’ll move on to the Greens, and if
not, there’s always UKIP. If they feel seriously conflicted, they might just
stay at home and not vote at all. In Scotland, they have serious alternative
now. In any case, you’re unlikely to gain back their trust as long as you
present yourself as a paler copy of the Tories. Nicola Sturgeon did give you
the heads-up in the leadership debate. She said that of course there is a
difference between Tories and Labour, but the problem is that the difference is
not big enough. It is nowhere near big enough.
There are several ways in which this failure to be properly
Labour instead of Tory-lite has played out.
1. You have failed to be an effective opposition.
Instead of challenging the Tories’ brutal austerity policies, their
hair-raising incompetence with the economy, their blatant favouring of the rich
elites, you have done little else than bicker about details. You have allowed
the electorate in England and Wales to believe against all evidence to the
contrary that the Tories have is basically right. You voted with them for more
austerity cuts. You voted with them for Trident renewal. You voted with them
for more foolish military interventions in the Middle East, even though you must
know by now how the Iraq War has damaged you. You abstained from the vote on
the fracking moratorium which would have succeeded had you not been so
cowardly. You have not been a counterweight to the nasty coalition, you have
enabled them.
2. You have allowed the Tories to determine the
political narrative. Instead of countering their agenda with your own agenda,
you kept telling us you would do much the same as the Tories, only in a nicer
way, and you deluded yourself that this would keep everyone happy. All this
nonsense about cutting the deficit by slashing public services and restricting
government spending, when it is standard textbook economy that in times of
recession the government must increase spending to help the economy recover –
you could have called the Tories out on this, you could have presented the
figures of how the Tory approach had made the economy much, much worse. Why did
it have to be Nigel Farage of all people who pointed out in the leaders’ debate
that the Tories had doubled the national debt? That would have been your role,
you should have hammered this message home relentlessly instead of letting them
get away with their ludicrous claim that they had fixed the economy. You even
allowed UKIP to set your agenda: Instead of making it clear, like Natalie
Bennett and Leanne Wood and Nicola Sturgeon did, that immigration really,
really isn’t a relevant problem, you went about printing “Controls on
immigration” on mugs and even inscribing it on your ridiculous monolith.
3. Instead of fighting the Tories, you fought your potential
allies. This wasn’t so disastrous in the case of the Greens and Plaid Cymru,
given their small numbers, but I will say that having a big campaign to unseat
Caroline was not only mean-spirited but stupid; those resources should have
gone into targeting a Tory seat. However, it was your treatment of the SNP that
might well have cost you the election. Again, you let the Tories determine the
narrative. They crowed about a constitutional crisis, about a second referendum
which neither the SNP nor the wider YES movement are seeking within the next
few years anyway, about “breaking up our (sic!) country,” about chaos and
nationalism and England being held to ransom. They and their compliant media
outlets abused the SNP and the people of Scotland on a daily basis in the most
despicable terms. And all you did was parrot them. Nicola Sturgeon could not
have held out her hand any more sincerely, and yet you sneered at it.
What you could have done, should have done, was to challenge
the Tory narrative. The SNP have been riding sky-high in the polls since
September; and you had known for months that you could only form a government
with their help. Plenty time to come up with a constructive strategy. You could
have pointed out that the SNP are a moderate party of the centre left. You
could have pointed out that they have a track record of eight years of
competent and sensible and not-at-all-outrageous government in Holyrood. You
could have pointed out that they stood for the kind of temperate progressive
policies that many, many people in England would have been delighted to see.
You could have pointed out that in no imaginable universe would even 59 SNP MPs
be able to call the shots in a 650-strong parliament; that you would always be
the boss in any kind of arrangement.
You could have thrown all your might into
convincing the English electorate that a Labour/SNP team effort would be good
for the whole of the UK, as it undoubtedly would have been. Instead you
declared a week before the election on national television that you would
rather see the Tories return to power than work with the SNP. The stupidity of
this is mind-blowing. And all under the banner of “not working with a party
that seeks to break up the UK.” Tell me, what is your deal again with the SDLP,
a party that seeks to unite Northern Ireland with the republic? You don’t even
field candidates against them to give them a better chance? If you can work
with them, why not with the SNP? But even today you still harp on about “nationalism”
when in fact what the people of Scotland have opted for is the moderate social
democratic policies which you should have offered but didn’t.
4. Having alienated your core supporters and turned
your back on your potential allies, and with no progressive track record as an
effective opposition to show to the electorate, you have based your election
campaign on sound bites, PR stunts and silly gimmicks. Just after Nicola
Sturgeon presented her gender-balanced cabinet and promised to work tirelessly
on shattering the glass ceiling, you insulted the women of the UK by inviting
them to talk “around the kitchen table” about “women’s issues,” proudly brought
to us by a pink van. And you didn’t see it coming that people would call it the
Barbie Bus and laugh it out of town? You allowed Jim Murphy to run amok in
Scotland with one insane “policy announcement” after another – remember the
“1000 more nurses than anything the SNP promises?” Why not promise weekend
breaks on Jupiter for the over 65s? You wheeled out Gordon Brown at random
intervals to make meaningless promises and you expected people to be swayed by
the pledges of a retiring backbencher? You had some wishy-washy election
promises carved in a massive gravestone and you thought that was a good idea?
Yours was a hopeless, hopeless campaign from beginning to
end, without vision, without structure, without conviction. And yet I, like so
many, clung to the hope that surely people in England must be so fed up with
the Tories by now that they’d vote for you anyway and that surely once the
election day dust had settled you’d see sense and head a progressive alliance
with the SNP, SDLP, Plaid Cymru and the lovely Caroline Lucas who is worth her
weight in diamonds. We could have turned things around for the good of the many
rather than the few. Instead the Tories now have carte blanche to suck dry the
people of the UK and grin smugly while they feast on our bones. All thanks to
you, Labour Party. Now get your act together and make sure this will never
happen again. I cannot spell it out any clearer.
I think that Labour is still not getting it in Scotland. So long as they are a branch office of London Labour, they will always be in thrall to it. They are still trying to recreated Blaitism as it gave them their only recent taste of government. They think it is a cake recipe where you chuck a number of raw materials into a tin, stick it in the oven and expect a fully iced sponge to emerge.
ReplyDeleteThat vital ingredient, soul, has been missing and they cannot fake it any more.
The Labour Party no l;onger has a purpose in life , except to exist for its own sake. D.=arwin will soon intervene.
The sooner it dies, the better for the body politic in Scotland.
Naively they seem to think that it is the way to win votes, but I think that Annette nailed it.
DeleteYou can court the aspirational middle classes with Tory-lite policies, but then, after a while your own constituency says... WHAT IS THIS? and eventually you lose them.
You don't keep the Tory ones. They end up going back to their home turf.
In the end, you're right, Darwin takes over.
If you heard Kezia Dugdale's latest comment, you know that Labour are still not listening to me.
ReplyDeleteYes i did and have just heard what Liz Kendall tells Sheffield audience:
Delete"The SNP is raising national identity over and above everything we have in common as human beings."
They are wilfully deaf and stupid.
Annette...
DeleteI hope you don't mind me making a post out of that. It was too good not to.
I'd no idea how to get in touch to ask permission, but I'm glad you found it.
Yes, I heard what she said. That clashes with what they all said after the referendum about re-engaging with Glasgow Man.
Their core vote, or a large section of it, has decided that centre left policies will come not from Labour, but from the SNP. Why would they chase the Tory vote in Scotland? It's far too small and at absolute core level. There's nothing to win.
Kezia seems to have lost the plot.
Thanks again for writing that post. It's brilliant.
You're totally welcome to share; I was hoping a lot of people would read it. Not that I am so particularly clever; a lot of people have said much the same thing, but I seem to have summarized it neatly.
DeleteYes you did and thanks for doing so.
DeleteI rather think you are clever Annette! You certainly nailed this situation.
DeleteThanks again.
Labour would do this slower they really are finished.
ReplyDeleteYes... that's damning.
DeleteLabour have lost their "good guys". They are not electable in Scotland. They are not good enough.
ReplyDeleteSo its no bad thing they are lost. They are an obstacle to Scottish self determination. After independence we may need a centre left party. But for now, leave them in the wilderness. Scotland has more pressing needs than career politicians can deliver.
It's maybe lack of brains; maybe lack of direction (being pulled in the wrong direction by London), or maybe it's that they are so uninspiring they just can't recruit decent people. (Not surprising if their only policy is SNP BAD and abusive, while people are starving.)
DeleteYou're right though. We shall need good people of every political stripe.
Just don't know where they are going to come from.
Just wanted to say, great post. Nice one Annette. :-) Dx
ReplyDeleteThere you are, Annette. I think I'm right that this is the first time Mr D has ever commented here!
DeleteNice to see you D Doc!
:)
We in England owe you a vote of thanks for ensuring that we can never again be inflicted with a Labour government !
ReplyDeleteI'm glad we made you happy.
DeleteNow maybe you'd like to return the favour and ensure that we never get another Tory government.
DeleteGreat article, and I thought I wrote lengthy responses!
ReplyDeleteI have no idea what Labour stands for now. They are making the mistake of trying to appeal to everyone, and criticising other parties without providing alternative policies / processes.
Now that the Tories have a majority, they are able to act in the way we'd expect. A lot of it is not exactly popular, but at least you know where they stand.
The SNP are far more clearer about where they stand since Nicola took over the leadership. They've managed to get out of the shadow of independence, and be clearer about what they want.
The mistake in Scotland was to ignore the Labour Party up here. For all her faults, Lamont would have fared better if allowed some freedom from Labour HQ. Some people talk about Scotland being treated as some "shire" by Westminster. Well Labour achieved that with their own party.
Labour need a leader like Dan Jarvis, their shadow Minister for Justice. But he has declined to enter the leadership race for now, which is a shame. Such an individual might start clearing away the dead wood in the party.
I think that the bulk of Labour is now just Tory lite.
DeleteThere are a few stragglers that still seem to have socialism in their boots, but seriously, not many. Obviously Mr Corbyn would be my choice for the English party, but I don't really have a choice for the Scottish party. Probably I'd invite Ms Lamont to take up the job again, but this time without Miliband breathing down her neck worrying about how the focus groups were taking it in Hampstead, and without the traitorous Curran (and I mean she was a traitor to her friends, not to Scotland, so get off your twitter account Blair) being involved in any way.
Frankly, so far as I can see there's not a single one of them that is any use at all.
They really have to work out who their new constituency is.
Are they interested in the needs of Glasgow man? Or is it Morningside, their last stronghold in Scotland, that really matters?
One thing for sure, they are going to have to come up with some policies. Continually criticising the SNP is OK. Opposition requires that. But when you criticise them for being what you should be then you are on shaky ground.
And when you make up stories to criticise them with, you have lost.
Most of us know when the government either in Holyrood of Westminster, makes a mistake. We don;t need Dugdale carping on and on about it, but having no credible alternative to offer.
Labour need to rediscover the policies that made them electable, not chasing some mirage of Blairism.
DeleteThey don;t appear to want to do that Dennis. Not if Ms Dugdale is to be believed.
DeleteSuperb, from start to finish. Nail on the head.
ReplyDeleteNeil
Indeed. Full credit to Annette.
DeleteThank you Annette, yes in many ways you are quite correct many people see what it wrong with Labour, you put it into words for them but never mind they will never understand a word you said. James Forrest has repeatedly told them where they have gone wrong and he used to work for them. He has the inside track if you like.
ReplyDeleteLabour needs to die, then all those people who have cleaved to them can set up a new party with the right ideas. They have people in the party who would be socialist but they cannot seem to go against the Party, in fact the Party with Labour has become the main thing which above all other things like their constituents, the country and even their voters must be protected. I do not know how people like John McDonnell or indeed Jeremy Corbyn and even Dennis Skinner could stand to be in the same room/building as some of the new intake. Rachel Reeves, Liz Kendall could all be much more at home in the Tory Party. In fact I believe that women Anna Soubry on QT last night said to Chuka Ummuna that hewas a Tory, and he is.
...in fact the Party with Labour has become the main thing which above all other things like their constituents, the country and even their voters...
DeleteThat's the main issue. Bang on. It's down to the 'success' of the Party with Labour and nothing else matters. It's seems their only purpose now is to enable the Tory's
Agreed.
DeleteI genuinely believe that the Labour Party in Scotland is hamstrung by their desire to play on the big stage (even if that role is really just doing what the American President tells them to do). They see Edinburgh as a small unimportant capital on the same lines as Oslo, Reykjavik or Helsinki. Whereas London is up there with Paris, Berlin, Beijing and Washington.
As I said, it's illusory really. London is only as important as Washington allows it to be.
Tony Blair admitted that the nuclear capability was a nonsense, kept only as a status symbol. Britain is simply 'fur coat and nae drawers' writ large. They are pathetic to watch, as they echo everything that the Secretary of State says.
But labour wants to be theses puppets. Because being the foreign secretary of Scotland is about as exciting as being the foreign secretary of Malta.
They won't form a separate party becasue they know that none of them would ever be part of a British Cabinet again. So they will continue to be the poodles of the poodles and eventually they will disappear.
Labour don't listen, unless it's a hand picked focus group; with a predetermined outcome, that suits their prejudices.
ReplyDeleteThey long since gave up on the working class, nevermind the poor and huddled masses, to concentrate on winning for the sake of winning; and damn the fekin torpedoes.
It's all jobs for the boys, and an ermine jaikit at the end of it, it's always been thus.
Pretending to, care, be of the people, be socialist, to basically give a shit about their fellow travelers.
I've never trusted them, and I'm knocking on half a century on this mortal plain, we call life. They are as one with the Tories, taking turns to enrich the themselves; or pretend to wander the political desert. All the while, the poor, the "under privileged" (I've always detested that term, unless yer fekin royalty, we're all under fekin privileged), the working class, the immigrant, the asylum seeker,the poor feker who just wants to provide for his family; gets shafted day after day, year on year, life span after life span. It's fekin depressing.
We in Scotland, believe it or not, are lucky. We do already have a centre left party, the SNP. They are far from perfect but, they at least put the people, constituents and country that voted for them; first and foremost.
Agreed.
DeleteYes, although it must work within the financial constraints of the British government, and can be taken away from us at their whim (imagine the whim of Fluffy Muddle, how embarrassing), we at least have a centre left organisation looking after some of the most important things in our domestic lives.
DeleteUnfortunately not near enough of them.
Then they (the 56) get wee Dougie saying that they're impotent, because they are out numbered, that's the fault of UK labour not the SNP, labour are unelectable because they are Tories in all but name.
DeleteNot that "Labour" would have worked with the 56. Dummies would be spat and mittens thrown.
DeleteThat's one of the things that they really need to get over.
DeleteSuperb post. Nice one Annette.
ReplyDeleteLabour stopped hearing as their collective heads were buried in the slops in the trough.... and that's been for many, many years. It has taken the electronic revolution for the facts to actually filter through to the public.
Now they have no idea what to do or say as their platitudes and BS trips them up every time they open their garbage filled mouths.
HI Hazel.
DeleteThe party has become about self preservation.
I just don't think they are very good at it. And lord knows they should be knocking at an open door given what Osborne and Cameron are throwing at us.
They just can't do it though. They don;t have policies for fighting the tories
Jeremy Corbyn probably does.