It reminds me of John Major in the car driving past his old home, just like he was a normal person, only we all know he rehearsed seeing it four of five times before he got it right.
Seriously, I have rarely heard so much rubbish in my life. The Labour Party may well have been most of or all of what Murphy talks about once upon a time, until Mandelson, Brown and Blair got their evil Tory hands on it.
But a long time ago it ceased to bear any resemblance to what Jim is talking about here, particularly with reference to the poor... and all over the world, if you please.
What, Jim, about the poor in Afghanistan and Iraq, who had their legs blown off in the wars you supported? What about the inquiry into these wars that you so strongly resisted? What about the poor in Palestine, the unarmed kids being shot by Israeli soldiers?
And what about the poor in Scotland Jim, denied their desperately needed sickness benefits or on poverty wages on zero hour contracts, with you backing so many of IDS's vile policies? (And yes, I know Labour's stated policy is to get rid of zero hour contracts, but you you blow off about that you should probably tell all the Labour Councils that employ these contracts about that policy, becasue talking the talk is hardly enough when people are starving...)
If anyone believes any of this crap, then I suspect that they also believe in Professors McGonnigal and Snape and I'll look forward to seeing them on platform 9 3/4 where we can watch the cow jump over the moon together.
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Sanctimonious prick!
ReplyDeleteOh, I see that you're a bit more of a fan of his than I am...
DeleteBut I'll leave it at what you said, because my mum reads this... and she'd smack me if I was swearing. She won't hit you though; you're safe!!
Thing about Sir John Major was that he did come from nothing, he did struggle for years. He did it with low educational attainment.
ReplyDeleteThat is a damn lot more than any of the current Westminster party leaders have achieved or have done.
Ed Miliband is so out of touch with reality he talks to white van men of 'his deep respect' as if they're bloody D-Day veterans.
Dave hasn't worked for anything in his life. He landed his first job out of elite university thanks to his family connections (naturally, a job in the Tory Party)...
And Clegg? He landed work in the EU for years before becoming an MEP...then MP...
Say what you like, but Sir John is worthy of a lot more of my respect than most modern party leaders.
The whole white van man episode actually showed up labour for what they are. The daft woman, who is a lawyer to trade, who was stupid enough to tweet about people having English flags on their house. I am sure that she was trying to make a point about Ukip, but she might have foreseen the furore she would stir up...
DeleteThen there was Miliband and his OTT response. He should have quietly slapped her down for being stupid. Instead he sacks her (dangerous because if he sacks all of them who are stupid, he'll be left with no one) and pays homage to white van man as if he were, as you say, a war hero. Idiot.
It's like them all turning out to eat a Gregg's sausage roll to prove they are down there with the people. (Incidentally I tired one not long ago and threw it to the seagulls who refused to eat it!)
I don't pretend to like John Major, but I do respect that he came from nothing, with no money and no Eton/Oxford connections. I also respect people who turn down peerages and disrespect those who take them.
If I'd been him I'd have rejected the garter thingy too.
tris
Deleteto be honest any one who hangs a flag ( of any nation )or several over there windows thus obscuring the view , light etc instead flying them in a sensible
manner.Is properly an arse and driving around with his white smothered
in THE SUN posters only confirms this .
The Labour party has forgotten how to speak working class but then what
party these days actually knows how to .the snp are mainly middle class lovies who hate trade unions.
Well Niko, we understand that the likelihood is that he was supporting UKIP in an 'England for the English' kind of way...
DeleteIt's not to my taste, but he has the right to feel that way. He may very well be an arse. If he reads the Sun, and supports UKIP, there's a strong possibility.
The trouble is that the shadow secretary for law or whatever she was, should have had a lot more sense than tweet about it. She managed to make it look as if she was doing down the English flag and the working class at the same time. A bit thick for a working man's party in England.
(Even the Slab lot were careful not to dis the Saltire even if they though Scotladn was better ruled by England. )
And Ed should have shut the hell up about it instead of turning it into a three ringed circus. A quiet word and a suggestion that she apologise... but all this.... I respect white van man... the Labour party will always be the party of the working man... Let me show you me eating a Gregg's Sausage Roll without vomiting, like I was used to doing it...
Jeez. What a tube.
A lot of the SNP are middle class I accept, but their Trades Union group is bigger than the entire Labour membership.
the snp are mainly middle class lovies who hate trade unions.
DeleteYes that is why over 12,000 members of the SNP are trade union group members that's more members that the Labour party has in Scotland.
It's also true to say that the areas that voted for independence were largely the working class areas of the country.
DeleteMost notably Glasgow. Every Westminster constituency in Glasgow voted for independence.
If I were Labour, that would worry me. And I wouldn't think that a right wing warmongering, nuclear weapons proponent, like Murphy, was the answer.
And I'll add, Jim Murphy is no ruddy John Major. Murphy isn't the type to turn down a peerage if offered. Murphy isn't the type to climb from nothing, and remember where he came from.
ReplyDeleteMurphy is a self-aggrandising Blairite. Nothing wrong with that, except when you claim these things are the solution to SLABs current woes. He knows he isn't the answer for Scottish Labour. But he stands anyway.
Murphy only wants one thing: the Jim Murphy show to roll on beyond his irn bru crate and indyref campaign.
I hope that his standing for labour leadership in the branch office will be his final humiliation. As you say, it's all about him. If he cared one tiny bit about Slab, or the people that it says it represents, he'd do his best to try to find a strong, intelligent, able, quick witted left winger.
DeleteThe trouble is that most of them have left the party.
Are you suggesting Murphy is something of a charlatan?
ReplyDeleteGood luck with The National. Sorely needed.
Hello Robert...
DeleteErm , yeah, I think it would be reasonable to describe Murphy as that!!!
Agreed... off to get my copy now.
Sorry Trish, 1.02 minutes was as much as I could take!
ReplyDeleteRonnie.
Trish? I think it could catch on. What do you say Tris? :P
DeleteHa ha.. well, I'm not sure it suits me much, but as my granny would say...
Delete"ye kin ca' me onythin' as lang as ye dinnae ca' me ower"
Sorry, TRIS.
ReplyDeleteRonnie
I been called worse Ronnie... :)
DeleteHaven't got the heart to listen to yet another faux socialist, had enough yesterday with their version of Cluella Deville in the form of Rachel Reeves. Why do they not go where their heart is to the Tories.
ReplyDeleteGot our copy of the National, took a wee bit of doing, we are not best served in Dunfermline with newsagents, certainly not in Duloch, where the BIG supermarkets exist to serve, hahaha. So Husband managed to get it in the centre at RS MCCall.
Got mine too...
DeleteI see Stu has handed the Reeves woman her backside on a plate.
Imagine being a Labour spokesman on Social Security and talking about the welfare state as if it were some private health insurance. Does the stupid bitch know NOTHING about socialism? Odious woman.
Tris
ReplyDeleteMurphy, as they say in my kitchen, is a dick and I hope he wins. I cannot think of anything better than the Scottish branch with oor Jim as Chair, it will finally kill them off and show them up to be what they are, dicks.
Bruce
Tsk tsk Bruce I am a Dick by adoption and take very badly to that Family name being used for the Murphii. They were a band of blinking outlaws but they had honour, the Murph is short of that.
DeleteHe;len's sesibilities about the word "dick" notwithstanding, Bruce, I agree.
DeleteI hope the right winger gets the job. I mean he's going to because they are fiddling it for him... so I'm looking forward to him leading Scotland's Labour Party branch from England. I'm looking forward to him voting for £150 billion for nuclear weapons despite Scottish Labour voting against them... I'm hoping he will be able to explain his love for starving children while voting for policies that starve them.
Dick?
DeleteI prefer he name given to him on Wings
BoneyM :)
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DeleteLOL... I liked one I saw on Twitter... Harry Potter reference... Slytheren Boy.
DeleteNot a coward? I distinctly remember a picture of him with a long yellow streak down his back...
ReplyDeleteI don;t know whether the man is a coward or not. But he says that he refused to fight for the apartheid regime. Now I accept that his parents took him there and that he had no choice in the matter, but he seems not to have any hatred for the place until they asked him to go into the army. Asked is probably an understatement, I accept. But he left because they wanted him to serve. He was prepared to live in an apartheid society until they asked him to be part of the army. He clearly had no desperate hatred of seeing black and coloured people treated as if they were subhuman.
DeleteHe grew up in SA and he wouldn't fight for them. Fair enough... Neither would I have. But then I'd have been out of there as soon as I was old enough to get the hell out of it. And, 20 years later I wouldn't have voted to send young men to fight and be killed in a war that had no basis in reason; that was illegal in international law, and that was based on a pile of lies that a 12 year old could have seen through.
So I'd say, if you can't do it yourself, Jim, don't dare ask someone else to do it.
You are a coward. You're a warmonger as long as it ain't you that's going to war. Vomit inducing.
Why is it everytime I see or hear Jim Murphy speak I feel a sense of loathing and anger towards him, do I have a previous unknown condition maybe JIMMURPHYITIS, a severe reaction to this horrid man.
ReplyDeleteI doubt it's an unknown condition. I think there are lots of sufferers...
DeleteCouldn't watch any more than about 30 seconds of that loathsome warmonger talking about his proud working-class background. Does he seriously imagine that makes him special. I'm working-class but I haven't raked off over £1m in expenses over the last few years or borne responsibility for countless deaths in illegal wars. Don't give working-class people a bad name, Sincerity Jim.
ReplyDeleteHear hear, Iain.
Deletetris and the haters
ReplyDeleteUm ! that was a stirring vid from dear old Jim I might just
rejoin the Scottish labour party , obviously unlike the one quid
a month snp wot a joke , I will pay reasonable tithe to the party.
just to vote for jimbo and give you lot some hate filled palpitations .
All this mass membership surge why nothing been seen like it
since ? since ? I know
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/nsdap.html
In the 1928 German elections, less than 3% of the people voted for the Nazi Party. This gave them only twelve seats, twenty fewer than they achieved in the May, 1924 election. However, the party was well organized and membership had grown from 27,000 in 1925 to 108,000 in 1928.
Why do unionists continue to compare the SNP to Hitler's Nazis.
DeleteThe SNP is a left of centre inclusive party. It doesn't hate foreigners; it doesn't hate Muslims or Jews; it doesn't hate gays. It just wants to end the rule of the country by London, for the South East of England.
It believes that the people who live in Scotland are best placed to choose the policies for Scotland. The truth is that no mater all the Scottish MPs got together to vote down something that English MPs wanted, it would make no difference. They have around 500; we have around 60. This has been demonstrated recently when the SNP and Labour voted on the same side against the English Tories... and the 1 Sottish Tory and their puppets... and needless to say, the English Tories won.
You are of course entitled to believe Jim, but i know you're too bright for that. Actually the next door neighbour's cat is too bright for that.
tris
DeleteI only compared the surge in membership shown in nationalist
parties in different eras .
Just done a 90 second survation poll over the phone
the contacted me cant say i was impressed by the methodology
Fair enough.
DeleteBut the kind of nationalism that the Nazis proposed is, I'm sure you will agree, very different form the kind proposed by Nicola or Alex?
We aren't about to send anyone to be gassed in Scotland, no matter their creed, race, sexuality or disability.
It's probably fair to say that Germany was in dire need to a good leader... or a strong leader to put them back on their feet when Hitler and the nazis came along. And for all the party turned out to be evil in the extreme, they started off making the economy work again.
DeletePeople didn't flock to join the evil party. They did so to join a party that looked like it might save them.
They were wrong, as it turned out. But they could have been right, and if Hitler hadn't gone mad, they very possibly would have been.
I see Nico is back, to the old unionist ploy of "if you sling enough mud..."; we may have lost the referendum, but by sinking to the Nazi jibe, he and his ilk have lost the argument.
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jimminy
Delete"if you sling enough mud...";
Umm heaven forfend the snp followers would do such a thing
like about say er !Jim Murphy for instance.............
Murphy is one of those Lizzards that David Ike goes on about.
DeleteI'm not sure... some of them have redeeming features...
DeleteMurphy's mud, expenses, warmonger, supported benefit cuts, voted against an inquiry in to the Iraq war, oh and campaigned along with the Tories to keep Scotland under the Westminster yoke. All of that sticks, as all of that is undeniable fact.
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I'm trying (seriously) to think of a redeeming feature, and I genuinely can't.
DeleteFrom the point of the SNP he's a godsend.
For a start he will be an absent leader; in London, unable to control what happens in parliament on a day to day basis.
Secondly his reputation for being a right winger is exactly what Slab needs to bury. This man is everything traditional Labour voters find repellent. Ed Miliband is far to the left of him. He's Blair's man bought and sold. Blair is hated. He's a war monger, and he's a multi millionaire on the back of all the dodgy connections he made since standing down when the bomb was ready to go off, and leaving brown to make a mess of picking up the pieces. (Don't tell me he didn't know it was coming.)
Third, although he has a reputation as a big hitter, I seriously have yet to see him perform well. He shouts a lot, but even political pygmies like Baillie can do that. He cannot construct coherent arguments and I've seen him bettered by ordinary working men time and again. On his tour of 100 towns he spoke to the converted... even the publicity pics were of people holding BT posters. When he did attract a crowd it was of traditional Labour voters shouting RED TORY. When he was challenged by little old ladies he either shouted trough them or ignored them. He's never answered a straight question in his life.
Forth for all his experience in parliament over the years, he won't be there. He'll be in England, in the parliament there...at least until May 2016. Kezia Dugdale will stand in for him. She's inexperienced and up against the very experience, razor sharp mind of Nicola, the lawyer. I'd not rate her chances. If Nicola wants to slice her up, there will be nothing she can do.
Fifth, he lacks personal charm, charisma, good looks or sex appeal. All of which are important, if somewhat shallow, concerns of people. OK, there have been others who were the same... but they were at least incredibly clever. Dewar for example.
People don't automatically like him; they are not captivated by him, by his personality, or wit, or charm. Women don't fancy him; i've heard that at least some think he's a bit creepy.
And lastly, he has a terrible reputation for charging maximum expenses, and I think that he was one of the MPs who let out his London apartment and rented another apartment so he could claim expenses on it. An appalling abuse.
Honestly, I'd pick anyone but him. Get Iain Gray back.
But London has made up its mind, and made it obvious (another mistake) otherwise Sarwar would never have thrown in the towel so that at least one of the management team could be based in Scotland.
London's right wing, war mongering, expenses man without charm in Scotland (at weekends only). Gift to Nicola.