Saturday 11 April 2015

RANDOM THOUGHTS ON SATURDAY


I thought that the video Arbroath shared with us on the last post was worth repeating here. It's pretty hard to comprehend what was going through Mr Donohoe's mind when he came out with that. 

It appears that despite there being 3 nuclear subs on the Clyde, the Russians were, at the time that Angus was speaking, sailing up the same river in one of their submarines, and moreover, there were tankers going over the top of Scotland from the same place.

So, what is Mr Donohoe saying? Maybe we need 12 or 20 nuclear submarines. Now let's see. if 4 cost around £100 billion, 12 would cost £300 billion, and 20 around £500 billion. Still when you have a debt of some £1.5 trillion, what's a few hundred billion here or there? 

There's always food banks, and we can always get Esther and Iain to kill off a few more thousand pensioners and sick people.

Bloody idiot.
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I think Stuart Campbell made a good point (again) on Twitter today.

He said, if you are one of the independentists who are calling people traitors and Quislings, you're not helping. 

We have seen the unionists throwing insults at Nicola (that wee lassie wi' a tin helmet). We've seen the slurs originating in UK government departments, with reference to the FM's meetings with foreign diplomats. We are aware of the bully boy tactics of the unionist press (the way, for example, they used the story of the SNP defector who was nothing of the kind) and we saw the way that the middle class millionaire men tried to shout down the three working class women in the tv debates.


People really do seem to be looking for a better more decent kind of politics, less aggressive and less macho. We should be aware of this. SNP membership rose by around 2000 following the debates. I'm prepared to bet that the Labour, Tory and Liberals had no such boost!

I think it's perfectly legitimate to point out when someone has said something despicable or has been uncovered as a cheat (Fallon in the last post) or has said something so monumentally stupid and self defeating (Donohoe in this post) that it leaves you saying... Whit? 

It's perfectly reasonable to dismiss what you believe to be utter lies, and to be scathing of the people who tell them... on any side of the argument. And a dig at our opponents' weaknesses is worth a laugh. Politics is a hard game. If you can't take the heat...etc.

But calling people Quislings because they feel British first and want to be and stay British, and owe their loyalty to the British state or the British queen, doesn't help any more that calling someone like Stuart, who sounds very much like a social democrat to me, Hitler.

Just my opinion, but I'd welcome your take on it...

And I warn you, I'll probably get angry at some point and fall foul of my own principles!
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It must be very handy to have a mother who can get you excused from facing sex charges. I hope this judge knows that even if she makes him a knight, he won't be able to use the title. Still, knowing he has it may be of comfort to him.

The whole thing is unfortunate. If Airmiles had been treated like an ordinary mortal, he would have been able to plead his case and we would have heard the evidence for and against and been able to make up our minds whether he was guilty or not.

As it is all we know is that there were allegations and that he has denied them.

So we are left to make up our own minds based on that slim amount of information. Not satisfactory. 
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21 comments:

  1. " It's pretty hard to comprehend what was going through Mr Donohoe's mind when he came out with that. "

    I don't want to be a nit picker here Tris but I think you are making a rather humongous assumption here ... that Brian Donohoe actually has a mind, or brain for that matter, for anything to go through in the first place! LOL

    Putting aside his submarine spotting capabilities I was just wondering where he thought all these Russian oil tankers were supposed to go if not around the top of Scotland ... through the English Channel?

    I wonder what he would be shouting then ... how dare those pesky Russians send their oil laden ships through OUR English Channel! How dare they!

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    1. Point taken.

      Yep, these tankers. They get everywhere. perhaps they should load up at Vladivostok and sail round through the Panama Canal. Just keep them away from the top of Scotland.

      He's a womble.

      Anyone know if he's likely to be binned in the election?

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  2. Donohoe has been a mammary gland for years. When he was my Union rep. he was as useless as any of the following in a chocolate construction, hammer, fireguard or teapot. Great to see that he keeps up the practices of his past. A moments silence for his constituents before he departs in May.

    Don't you think he looks tired and emotional in that clip?

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    1. Ah... that could be the explanation, Anon.

      Is he likely to go in May?

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    2. You're to kind Anonymous an orifice of the rear anatomy would get nearer to his base.

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  3. "As it is all we know is that there were allegations and that he has denied them."

    It's worse than that: We know that there were charges. We know that he denied them (well, who wouldn't?). And we know that someone felt the need to pull strings to get the trial dropped, rather than let the wheels of law turn their course.

    That last bit of info *really* doesn't look good for him, as it makes it look like he didn't think he'd get off in a fair trial, and needed to call mummy in to get him clear. Which makes it look *very much* like he was caught guilty as sin, and that's the impression that people walk away with.

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    1. That's what I thought Illy.

      As they keep on telling us, if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear!!

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  4. I have a copy of the original Court submission, which I think is also erased? 12 pages.

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    1. (copy) I have agents everywhere and the original of this reply disappeared, mysteriously.

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    2. Now I know why there are more panda's in Scotland than Tories and soon, hopefully more than Labour and Lib Dems as well! LOL

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    3. MI5 are now following Munguin's Republic!

      I should start advertising. The number of hit I would get would pay for Munguin's Truffles.

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    4. OOps, I hope it was not me. Mysteriously the disappeared post has now turned up.

      Ferkem.

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    5. Watch it hasn't been tampered with. They are fiendishly cunning. They can even release reports that no one ever made... allegedly.

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  5. Tris

    I think we have all been guilty of using language that may on occasion not help but some people have had enough of the attacks from all sides. They revert to using the word quisling against people who do appear to act against their own countries interests because they are fed up having to place nice all the time when the other side can be as nasty as they want and it's encouraged, I have every sympathy for them and won't condemn the language because maybe sometimes the gloves have to come off, even if it doesn't help.

    Bruce

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    1. Fair enough, Bruce, but I think that people have the right to feel British and believe that what they are doing, they are doing for THEIR state.

      It ain't mine. never has been and never will be. I loathe it more with every passing day, but some are wedded to it.

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    2. Tris

      I agree it's the ones who claim to be everything Scottish that winds people up.

      Bruce

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    3. That's a good point Bruce.

      ''I'm Scottish through and through but i like being subjugated by London for the benefits of the City'' type.

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  6. http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/dundee/former-dundee-mp-jim-mcgovern-told-to-leave-city-bar-after-alleged-confrontation-with-staff-1.862552

    It seems Jim's condition has either improved, allowing him to socialise in the local hostelries with his wife of an evening...

    ...or it has worsened.

    Whichever.

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  7. Well for a long time I must have been one of those that Rev Stu was fed up with. I call a spade a shovel and whilst I would never call those who are convinced that the Union is their saviour I will not pull my punches with Traitors who know better like Gordon Brown Alistair Darling and all the rest. These people know which side they see their bread is better buttered on and we can all go hang. Yes I see Mr McGovern has had a miraculous recovery but then he said it was an other couple who were being abused though management in Weatherspoons said that it was the other way round. You believe as you choose I suppose.

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  8. Helena

    He is a fucking Labour politician. Does anyone with more than two active firing neurons believe him?

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