Saturday, 16 August 2014

SOME RANDOM THOUGHTS

According to three senior ex-policemen, the level of policing in England and Wales has fallen dramatically, whilst in Scotland it has risen by over 6% since 2007. The consider that the only way to protect this is to vote YES. So if you're a policeman and you want to go on being a policeman, it might be a good idea to get your cross in the YES box on September 18.
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29 comments:

  1. triis


    If you want to keep your job you better vote ' yes' ?? no intimidation there eh ?
    and you lot are on about the unionist being negative, I mean pot kettel etc

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    1. @Niko Pragmatism and lies are two different things, Westminster, you won't get Dr Who in an independent Scotland, even though its beamed to 70 countries, an independent Scotland would be open to attacks from outer space,mobile roaming charges will be sky high in an independent Scotland just as the networks abolished them, you wont get an organ transplant, in an independent Scotland, NHS England said yes you will, you won't be able to use Great Ormond St Hospital for sick Scots children, Great Ormond St hospital aid yes you will.

      I could go on all day Niko pointing out the difference between pragmatism and lies, but I'm pretty sure you get the picture.

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    2. Yes. No point in me saying anything Niko.

      These are likely to be facts.

      The UK is spending less on police, so we will get less to spend on police.

      The Uk is spending less on health so we will get less to spend on health.

      The Uk is spending less on education, so we will get less to spend on education.

      The Uk is spending more on bombs so, we will ahve to pay more to keep these murders at the top table with the other nutters that think they run the world.

      But different form telling us we won't get blood, kids won't be treated (specially when it has been shown to be a lie)

      Or indeed that by the strangest possible co-incidence that three different families gave word for word the same answers to three different interviewers who asked the word for word same questions!

      Or indeed a series of questions that have been asked by different people in different towns, using exactly the same words, to a series of different politicians, who then proceeded, different people though they were, to use EXACTLY the same words, typeface etc to answer these questions.

      Something dodgy there non?

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    3. I see Labour politicians in Scotland are still lying that the NHS is not being privatised in England as a public protest is going on in Jarrow against its privatisation. Coruption at the heart of Labour.

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    4. anon

      And I am pretty sure I dont !!

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    5. Yes Anon. You should never assume that Niko has got the picture.

      As a rule of thumb, assume the opposite.

      It's served me well these last 5 years!!

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    6. They are on strike I think because they have been re-employed by the private company which reduced their wages by 33%!

      So, if it isn't happening... erm, why are they striking?

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    7. How will you keep your 'make-work' public sector 'jobs' with no English taxpayer subsidy ?

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    8. Being a nurse isn't a "make work job" you muppet.

      We don;t have an English taxpayer subsidy. The reverse in fact.

      Go do some research before you post rubbish on here.

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  2. Funny you should mention the reduction in the police force, Alan Burnett ex-head of counter terrorism in Scotland agrees that Police Scotland's number would be significantly reduced in Scotland after a no vote.

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/no-vote-independence-put-number-4055484

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    1. Well, I suppose it is a no brainer.

      The English system has already allowed the private sector to do all sorts of police related things, and of course they have slashed the price, because the people they employ are untrained, and if they get into any real trouble they have to call the proper police.

      The consequential is bound to be less if you are paying far less to the staff.

      I see some of the privatised staff earn only 66% of what they used to in the health service.

      That's got to be great for their moral.

      And for patient care.

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  3. tris and the moaning minnies


    yesterday we got backing from Ronald McDonald best burgger flipper and economist
    in the universe.Today Tony Abbott ( Australian prime minister for the duh brains ) says An independent Scotland would not be in the best interests of the international community....

    he also says....I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons’



    Climate change is absolute crap


    Now, I know that there are some Aboriginal people who aren’t happy with Australia Day. For them it remains Invasion Day. I think a better view is the view of Noel Pearson, who has said that Aboriginal people have much to celebrate in this country’s British Heritage’


    There may not be a great job for them but whatever there is, they just have to do it, and if it’s picking up rubbish around the community, it just has to be done’

    See a man of wisdom and forthright views, they may not be the right views or in fact even normal but he is for the continuing union and therefore we thank him for helping...sort of.....even if he is a racist idiot

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    1. Niko. Tony Abbott could be the tipping point.

      I mean the man is an intellectual giant. He has managed single handedly to be the most unpopular prime minister of Australia ever. He's getting involved in so many overseas adventures to try to distract people from the mess he is making in Australia.

      I think however, that he reminds us that at least as Scots or Celts, while our wishes may not be taken into consideration much, at least we count for whole people, which is more, until recently, that the real Australians did.

      I laughed at Abbott when he demanded that Australians would decide who came to live in Australia. I wonder if the real Australians didn;t wish that they had had that power and the likes of Abbott would still be in England somewhere.

      I dunno about Ronald McD... after all there's only room for one flipper in the No Thanks campaign... and none one is better qualified for that than old Flipper Darling.

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    2. Nico, I now believe that, you have finally realised; you are fighting a lost cause. No more humour, just bullshit and snide remarks. Go quietly in to that long good retirement, enjoy your bar and we will enjoy our freedom.
      JimnArlene

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    3. Do not go gentle into that good night,
      Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
      Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

      Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
      Because their words had forked no lightning they
      Do not go gentle into that good night.

      Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
      Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
      Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

      Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
      And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
      Do not go gentle into that good night.

      Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
      Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
      Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

      And you, my father, there on the sad height,
      Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
      Do not go gentle into that good night.
      Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

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    4. Will you do that Niko, when it's your turn?

      Don't think I'll bother.

      I'll just drift quietly away.

      Still it's always nice to get a nice bit of Welsh poetry adn I can always count on you to both raise... and, of course, on many occasions, lower, the tone of the discussion.

      Dylan Thomas, isn't it?

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    5. Mr Abbot was the one who invented the "See you, Jimmy" ginger cap so deserves a knighthood for that alone.

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    6. Ah, HIM?

      I seem to recall him being about as amusing as the Crankies.

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    7. If the whites had never discovered Australia the natives would still be walking around in the desert talking to rocks

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    8. Well you've just said all we need to know about you Anon.

      You prat.

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  4. That's better, Nico. I love that poem. Dylan Thomas, wrote some of my favourite prose. Thanks for posting it.
    JimnArlene

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    1. Not into national characteristics much JimnA, but it does seem that the Welsh have some sort of music and poetry about them!

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  5. I wonder what the police think about the campaign to banish gun-toting cops from the streets of Inverness (all since the introduction of police Scotland, of course). Funnily enough the photos they have of police with actual guns don't look like Inverness to me. In fact I am not even sure they are Scottish.

    The biggest distortion was the article about the Highlands having 40,000 guns. I'm not too sure about giving credence to a newspaper that has screaming fearmongering headlines about guns, but doesn't show me believable evidence and doesn't know the difference between the shotgun and rifle licence holders mentioned in the article and the Magnum handgun photo right beside that headline.

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    1. I think,a s we have said before, bjsalba, that the standards of newspaper reporting is dropping with the circulation.

      Far fewer journalists, far more reliance on wire stories from wherever, and no time to check or research anything.

      I swear some of them are down to the editor, a reporter and three work experience boys.

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  6. My wife used to be on the Crime Prevention Panel in South Lanarkshire twenty odd years ago. The Chief Inspector used to say the rumour going the rounds was that 'they' intended to bring in security firms to take over at least some of the duties of the Police Service in Scotland. It was the current view within the force then and I don't think the threat emanating from Westminster is any less serious nowadays. Cuts or the elimination of the Barnett Formula could make part privatization of the Scottish Force a certainty rather than a possibility in the event of a 'No' vote. Some of the comments emanating from those once highly placed in the Service in the last few days would seem to indicate this. If The Police are worried so should the public.

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    1. Agreed David. Thanks for the confirmation.

      Low paid jobs replacing proper trained police.

      It's ok for taking telephone calls but not so good when you need someone to go catch that mugger.

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