You couldn’t make this up. The poor wee MPs think that they shouldn’t have to be bothered by a complicated and chaotic expenses system where they have to provide receipts for the things they want us to pay for.
And so they demanded, and were granted, a debate on the subject. The Telegraph reports: The packed session lasted five times longer than the most recent debate on the conflict in Afghanistan, with MPs abandoning their usual custom of quitting Westminster early on Thursday afternoons to attend to constituency duties.
(Or whatever else they like to do on Thursdays and Fridays....)
Obviously this was a matter far closer to their hearts than the fate of the troops out in Afghanistan, who strangely seemed to be so much closer to their hearts at election time. Isn’t it odd how one’s sympathies can change so dramatically.
By all accounts it was an extremely heated debate with MPs losing their tempers and laying down the law. They would not, said Tom Harris, be treated like that.
Treated like what Tom? Oh yes, like ordinary people, having to prove every last halfpenny, being sent back after waiting in a queue that seemed to last forever, because one tiny scrap of evidence was wrong... Like a post office maybe, or the tax office, or the passport office, or the benefits office Tom? Is that what you people will NOT be treated like?
You were all running around 6-8 months ago pretending to be whiter than white. Oh yes, we need new system, new rules, tighten up, oh yes voters we are definitely going to do that. But then the votes were counted and ...well, there you are. Your expenses are 5 times more important than the war you sent people to fight in.
Ann Clwyd the little soldier, was angry than MPs reputations had been smeared by the expense scandal. Surely not! Isn’t that awful?
She complained that someone had come up to her while she was campaigning (this is the time that MPs actually meet the public) and shouted “thief”. She said, in a very un-feminist way, that if she had been a man she would have run after him and punched him on the nose.
A Tory, Roger Gale complained that there was mistrust in IPSA... Hello! What planet are these people on?
Let’s see. More than half of them fiddled their expenses. There had to be a grass roots change including sacking the Speaker!!! Mistrust Roger, you nob? I wouldn't trust any of you with a pound coin.
The new people authority was appointed because MPs and Lords were stealing... what did they expect from the new staff? Blank cheques.
Here’s the deal MPs: We pay the IPSA to check up that you people aren’t stealing any more, and god knows some already are, with their first class train fares, and renting out the houses that we bought for them, and living in the cheaper rented accommodation sorted by parliament.
Labour MP Clive Efford said: “I have spoken to MPs who have been in tears about the financial situation that they have been put in by Ipsa, who are not here speaking today."
Well why are they not there, or did you just make that up? But if they were in tears matey...welcome to our world. Nothing works and nobody cares. That’s the world you created for us. Have some.
I don’t think these people have the foggiest idea just how angry the public is with them. There is a new air of defiance about us though. Maybe one day soon they will find out just how angry we are.
And so they demanded, and were granted, a debate on the subject. The Telegraph reports: The packed session lasted five times longer than the most recent debate on the conflict in Afghanistan, with MPs abandoning their usual custom of quitting Westminster early on Thursday afternoons to attend to constituency duties.
(Or whatever else they like to do on Thursdays and Fridays....)
Obviously this was a matter far closer to their hearts than the fate of the troops out in Afghanistan, who strangely seemed to be so much closer to their hearts at election time. Isn’t it odd how one’s sympathies can change so dramatically.
By all accounts it was an extremely heated debate with MPs losing their tempers and laying down the law. They would not, said Tom Harris, be treated like that.
Treated like what Tom? Oh yes, like ordinary people, having to prove every last halfpenny, being sent back after waiting in a queue that seemed to last forever, because one tiny scrap of evidence was wrong... Like a post office maybe, or the tax office, or the passport office, or the benefits office Tom? Is that what you people will NOT be treated like?
You were all running around 6-8 months ago pretending to be whiter than white. Oh yes, we need new system, new rules, tighten up, oh yes voters we are definitely going to do that. But then the votes were counted and ...well, there you are. Your expenses are 5 times more important than the war you sent people to fight in.
Ann Clwyd the little soldier, was angry than MPs reputations had been smeared by the expense scandal. Surely not! Isn’t that awful?
She complained that someone had come up to her while she was campaigning (this is the time that MPs actually meet the public) and shouted “thief”. She said, in a very un-feminist way, that if she had been a man she would have run after him and punched him on the nose.
A Tory, Roger Gale complained that there was mistrust in IPSA... Hello! What planet are these people on?
Let’s see. More than half of them fiddled their expenses. There had to be a grass roots change including sacking the Speaker!!! Mistrust Roger, you nob? I wouldn't trust any of you with a pound coin.
The new people authority was appointed because MPs and Lords were stealing... what did they expect from the new staff? Blank cheques.
Here’s the deal MPs: We pay the IPSA to check up that you people aren’t stealing any more, and god knows some already are, with their first class train fares, and renting out the houses that we bought for them, and living in the cheaper rented accommodation sorted by parliament.
Labour MP Clive Efford said: “I have spoken to MPs who have been in tears about the financial situation that they have been put in by Ipsa, who are not here speaking today."
Well why are they not there, or did you just make that up? But if they were in tears matey...welcome to our world. Nothing works and nobody cares. That’s the world you created for us. Have some.
I don’t think these people have the foggiest idea just how angry the public is with them. There is a new air of defiance about us though. Maybe one day soon they will find out just how angry we are.
I heard that one MP in 3 months has claimed £17 grand allready if we keep giving they will take.
ReplyDeleteThey seems to want to go back to the good old days. I don't think they realize that we didn't just forget what a set of greedy pigs they were, and that most people now cannot stand them, or bankers.
ReplyDeleteCan you imagine a public office like say the tax office saying to its staff, oh don't bother proving what your expenses were, just give us a round figure and we'll bung you the money?
If you wouldn't trust Billy or Avril in the tax office why would we trust Ann or Roger in the Commons?
Do they think they are different?
What kind of politicians are we voting for when they burst into tears on being found out playing the Stradivarius?
ReplyDeleteAnother millionaire MP claimed that MPs were having to sleep on the floor.
How gullible do they think we are?
Perhaps they've been influenced by the fact that many Scots are still gullible enough to vote for Labour?
Lord only knows what we are getting John, but they are as daft as brushes if they think that we trust them.
ReplyDeleteThey are like hungry kids round a cookie (please note I'm a quick learner Danny) jar.
If the conditions are relaxed in any way for them I dunno what people will do. I hope they will revolt!
Tris,
ReplyDeleteNiko has already seen the light and is revolting.
I thought they had to keep him in the dark John....
ReplyDeleteI'm off to do a bit of snow visiting... then I think we might have a bit of a laugh at how pathetic the Uk is seen to be with its crawling....
ReplyDeleteCringe Brown....
Dear Tom. How we all miss the raconteur from Glasgow’s only Tory MP!
ReplyDeleteNew Politics is looking pretty much like the old one it seems. Oh yes they have all been re-elected now so don’t have to bother about the gravy train for another five years. A more shameless bunch or rapscallions was never seen.
MPs disgust me, how they can even pretend to care about the public they purportedly serve is beyond me. It really seems to me like defenestration is the only cure for half of the commons, which will hopefully shock the rest from their bloated complancency and make them do something. Of course, even that will last a few months at best, long term and centralised government never has and never will work.
ReplyDeleteIf the people are going to be subjected to humiliating checks where the sick have to hop about 'til they collapse to claim ever-dwindling benefits, I say that MPs have to do the same. Sleep in the gutters to prove you need four houses, rape and pillage your ducks to prove the utility of their moat.
Bless Tom Munguin.... Now what was it that he won't put up with again?
ReplyDeletelazaruszine... I think pillaging of ducks may be taking it slightly too far, but I do agree with you. I have never understood why the word people in parliament is taken as gospel when they have be proved over and over again to be just like the "ordinary people" they talk so much about but rarely to.
ReplyDeleteI don't know that they're like ordinary people, because I'm pretty sure if the rats in parliament played 'fuck you, buddy' they'd screw their partner over every time, whereas we're not yet that cynical. Much as they've tried to tax it, police it and commodify it, human decency is still ours and we still make use of it. The political class is seperate from us, but by no means in a positive way.
ReplyDeleteAnd I would never really want to pillage ducks, or any other animal for that matter!
Lazaruszine,
ReplyDeleteUnless he's taken a significant and miraculous turn for the better I take it that you are not the tedious Lazarus Long.
Haha, no... Just another piddly hipppie-punk blogger!
ReplyDeleteIm glad to hear it Laz... I'm talking about the pilligaing of ducks, not the fact that you're not one of Brownlie's old friends, that he seems not to like too much.
ReplyDeleteHippy punks will find themselves pretty much at home here.