tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post7732416741115555695..comments2023-12-20T19:39:29.865+00:00Comments on Munguin's Republic: WARNING: THESE IMAGES MAY DISTRESS YOUMunguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-16842647550816934152015-09-03T21:27:01.244+01:002015-09-03T21:27:01.244+01:00Concur Jim.Concur Jim.cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-2951801405552664072015-09-03T20:33:53.604+01:002015-09-03T20:33:53.604+01:00Thanks Kyle.
Thanks Kyle.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-28769757540251263592015-09-03T20:32:30.632+01:002015-09-03T20:32:30.632+01:00Exactly.Exactly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-78456398618909406552015-09-03T19:10:57.721+01:002015-09-03T19:10:57.721+01:00See "Lawrence of Arabia" for the truth ,...See "Lawrence of Arabia" for the truth , more or less, behind that story, or can I recommend "A Century of War" by F.William Engdahl (google him)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14126579887368758371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-41366248711597668222015-09-03T14:22:05.818+01:002015-09-03T14:22:05.818+01:00Credit to the request of Kezia Dugdale at FMQs tod...Credit to the request of Kezia Dugdale at FMQs today.<br /><br />Touched by the FM response.<br /><br />Proud of Scotland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-64920676318538057392015-09-03T13:24:40.126+01:002015-09-03T13:24:40.126+01:00That's not an unreasonable summation Bringiton...That's not an unreasonable summation Bringiton.<br /><br />Maybe if Britain attended to matters like decaying infrastructure and undemocratic government at home, and spent less time and efoort on poking its stupid nose into other people's affairs, we would be in the happy situation where things would work here, and the rest of the world wouldn't be in such a chaotic mess.<br /><br />But who's interested in trains and roads; hospitals and schools, when they can be conference calling with the Prersident and the Chancellor?Trisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-82291328622919222702015-09-03T13:18:38.374+01:002015-09-03T13:18:38.374+01:00The UK acting in concert with the USA inflicts vio...The UK acting in concert with the USA inflicts violence on people in the Middle East and else where and sticks two fingers up to the EU when they advise caution.<br />Now that the consequences of their actions are washing up on Europe's shores,the Westminster establishment is demanding EU action and trying to deflect blame by siting global warming as the reason for the problem.<br />I am beyond anger with my fellow Scots who voted to allow this situation to continue.<br />bringitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10712089398887269381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-77181235031714460822015-09-03T13:16:59.175+01:002015-09-03T13:16:59.175+01:00I know. These are good quesions Kyle. What is ISIS...I know. These are good quesions Kyle. What is ISIS? where did it come from? What are its aims?<br /><br />And of course you are right in that dealing with the traffickers won't stop the misery of bombed out homes. It will just leave these people nowhere to go. Is that better than leaking boats? <br /><br />It will take greater brains than mine to find a solution. <br /><br />I wonder if the reason for the reduction into debilitating chaos has anything t do with the Saudi royals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-68892865968411846532015-09-03T13:03:45.303+01:002015-09-03T13:03:45.303+01:00Bruce: Just read your piece on Carmichael.
I'...Bruce: Just read your piece on Carmichael.<br /><br />I'm inclined to agree. It's almost impossible that Mundell didn't know. Certainly, when it started to be big, both Clegg and Cameron must have been involved, given particularly, that it involved the French Ambassador. it is quite possible that the French government made it clear they wanted a solution sharpish, and someone as junior as Carmichael would have been well under the level that they would have dealt with.<br /><br />I'm not expecting Carmichael to be removed, despite the fact that clearly he was involved in leaking a report which he now admits was untrue, and then lying to the public about it. <br /><br />As a member of the Privy Council, that is despicable.<br /><br />Did his lie have any effect... Well, I doubt it. Nicola might be relatively new at being First Minister, but she had been deputy for a long time. No matter what her personal thoughts about Cameron or Miliband, she wouldn't have been so daft as to say anything in front of the French or their Scotland Office minders. So I doubt anyone believed it.<br /><br />The result of the General Election seems to confirm that.<br /><br />The report by the Cabinet Secretary should have been completed relatively quickly. He should have sent for Carmichael that afternoon and asked him ,under oath as a PC (or Rt Hon), for an explanation. Confirmation with the French surely shouldn't have taken more than a couple of days, at her Excellency's pleasure.<br /><br />It could have been solved by the next day. But that would have hurt the government in the run up to the election. And would almost certainly have meant that Carmichael but the dust.<br /><br />I doubt they cared about him. But they would care about the possible investigations into who else knew.<br /><br />I'm guessing the PM and Deputy PM (at the time) knew. So I agree with your conclusion that he will be allowed to stay on.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-28918068923250521042015-09-03T12:27:01.259+01:002015-09-03T12:27:01.259+01:00You can't rebuild dead three year olds Anon.You can't rebuild dead three year olds Anon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-13437867461499301722015-09-03T12:26:09.522+01:002015-09-03T12:26:09.522+01:00Good rant there Bruce lad.
Britain clearly rates ...Good rant there Bruce lad.<br /><br />Britain clearly rates lives by importance, dependant on nationality, birth, position, colour, creed. I've never quite understood that, and as it seems I never tire of saying, in a country we are told by its leaders, is a Christian country!<br /><br />I suspect that to them Christianity, like charity, begins at home, adn most specifically, with the Windsors, lords, MPs bankers, and top businessmen.<br /><br />Can you imagine it it were George Windsor washed up on a beach... By heaven's there'd be no end of wailing and moaning and gnashing of teeth.<br /><br />I don't know what we do about IS. Britain helped create that monster, and they certainly afforded it room to grow, but running riot through law and order in Iraq, and Lybia, and we mustn't forget that a lot of these refugees are fleeing Afghanistan, where Britian contributed so massively to the mess. I see that there is a appeal made by a senior army officer who fought in Afghanistan, and used interpreters, for the UK to allow them to be accepted for political asylum. <br /><br />These guys are in danger of their lives for aiding and abetting the enemy, and Britain stands back and says NO, can't help, would damage the immigration figures.<br /><br />Still it's comforting to know that the Windsor and Cameron children will sit down to a good meal tonight, and sleep in a comfortable bed in the Cameron's case, in tartan pyjamas... (Or was that only for the night of the referendum?)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-28795838796623766462015-09-03T12:13:18.893+01:002015-09-03T12:13:18.893+01:00Thanks CH.
It would be helpful if everyone who ha...Thanks CH.<br /><br />It would be helpful if everyone who has Twitter or Google accounts, could pass that on.<br /><br />Munguin will do his bit.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-3779972409915811452015-09-03T12:10:53.346+01:002015-09-03T12:10:53.346+01:00Finn: it's fine to post as Anon, and it is rea...Finn: it's fine to post as Anon, and it is really helpful if you can put, as you have, a name at the bottom of the post. :)<br /><br />Immigration has become a huge political hot potato for the London parties.<br /><br />Cameron came to power saying that he would stop all these people coming to Britland, where of course, most of the world wants to live because it is so perfect. He has failed dismally because he fails at most things, and the Home Office is so incredibly inept that it fails at most things.<br /><br />Mrs May is however going to be telling immigrants from outside the EU that unless they earn over £30,000 a year they will have to go home. Bang, of course, will go the NHS, especially in England. <br /><br />The Irish have always done their bit , b ut they do it quietly without bragging about it. According to an interview I heard this morning on radio with Andrew 'Pleb' Mitchell and Mrs Varsi, Britain is giving shed loads out of its overseas aid budget (the one it has to keep up, or lose it's G8 seat) to the area... in addition to bombing Syria. So they were feeling quite smug about how well it was doing.<br /><br />I dunno about the Trident submarines, though... Probably neither does the MoD!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-27046020365086845442015-09-03T12:00:40.251+01:002015-09-03T12:00:40.251+01:00Well said, Jim..Well said, Jim..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-45981238005520912802015-09-03T10:53:03.107+01:002015-09-03T10:53:03.107+01:00Tris
The UK's stance on this is beyond disgus...Tris<br /><br />The UK's stance on this is beyond disgusting. The largest selling paper in Scotland goes with a story about f Rangers, who cares. Too many are more worried about spending hundreds of millions on football players than dead children washed up on European beaches.<br /><br />This whole crisis is a nightmare, most of these people are fleeing the result of UK, American, French, Australian and Canadian foreign policy but mostly UK and American policy starting with Iraq. America should be providing financial aid to Europe and the UK should be doing more to take in those most in need. You know what, Putin is a bit of a nutter but on his rants in the last 20 years he said all of this would happen, honest decent people in parliament said this would happen but f them British PM's must have their wars and screw anyone that gets in their way. We are a tiny little small horid little delusional country living in some nightmarish past Victorian Age where the Windsor's children are worth thousands of our own and millions of anyone not British or white. <br /><br />I despise our current political set up and those on the right across the whole country who just don't give a shit and there are many in Scotland too who vote for these scumbags, I work with some. Surely now is the time to concentrate on the crisis at hand, provide some protection and safety for these people and then try and get other countries in the middle east to take a role, you know our friends like Saudi Arabia, Israel etc. This is their back yard and they cannot turn a blind eye on their own people, they can do more to bring about some solution's as they are a part of the problem too, we all have a responsibility to try and do something. Normally I would never consider the military as being a part of any solution but those IS bastards need to be dealt with in the short term and I think the whole world better get that sorted before we are plunged into an even bigger nightmare. Someone is funding them, someone is arming them, find them or is it what many in the USA suspect that we secretly funded them and armed them. What a f mess and it really pisses me off that wankers like Cameron do this in our name, that Labour and the Liberals are shouting when they know they can't do anything and if they were in power their record shows they wouldn't do anything anyway.<br /><br />Is there a more morally corrupt and vacuous country than the parts that run the UK, I think not. I f hate them I really do. We starve our own and we turn away from a refugee crisis we partly caused , I'm ashamed.<br /><br />Bruce<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-16451724663213956592015-09-03T07:10:28.029+01:002015-09-03T07:10:28.029+01:00But Tris we again come up against the idea that so...But Tris we again come up against the idea that somehow this horror story - from Afghanistan to Syria - is somehow just a big "Accident" caused by selfish, incompetent but generally well meaning attempts to promote democracy and get rid of nasty dictators, <br /><br />However what is happening is more or less what was meant to happen - the reduction of the entire region to debilitating chaos - for as I said reasons we can only speculate about.<br /><br />And directing ire against "ISIS" and "people traffickers" is futile - they are just "Bit players" in this game.<br /><br />And just who exactly are "ISIS/IS" anyway with their rows of shiny new 4x4s and state of the art weapons just off the American and Japanese assembly lines?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14126579887368758371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-42171535171043942552015-09-03T06:55:51.145+01:002015-09-03T06:55:51.145+01:00"I speak to people every day who think the Br..."I speak to people every day who think the British closed door policy is correct."<br /><br />British closed door policy, seems to be an open door to the wealthy; with no regard to how that wealth was created.<br /><br />Thankfully, no Scots mother, or a Welsh, Irish or English one, needs to bundle their family on to a rickety boat, trying to flee from war, persecution or famine.<br /><br />I think readers of this blog are media savvy enough, to see through media manipulation; people are in danger, starving and fleeing destroyed countries. Britain is in part to blame for the situation and therefore should play it's full part in helping these people.jimnarlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02231790902689695587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-5290828993907510112015-09-03T06:41:47.766+01:002015-09-03T06:41:47.766+01:00You'll find that they [the barking mad islamic...You'll find that they [the barking mad islamic religious lunatics] are trying to <i>get</i> to Daesh, not run away from it.Conan the Librarian™https://www.blogger.com/profile/01904339261121451779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-43263955052805871032015-09-02T23:52:18.977+01:002015-09-02T23:52:18.977+01:00I have seen the pictures of Cologne and Berlin aft...I have seen the pictures of Cologne and Berlin after the war. That's what happens in modern wars. The civilian population is attacked and the infrastructure is destroyed. Man's inhumanity to man. I remember siren voices begging for the RAF to bomb Syria ( and Libya ) not so long ago. So I suppose I am inoculated against those images. When its over - as it will be eventually - it will be rebuilt.<br /><br />And those of dead children? The overwhelming majority of refugees from Syria are in Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan. Some however have elected to move to the EU. They are selective in some cases, wishing to live in Sweden or Germany. I suspect the pull - as it probably is of London - is relatives already there. So they choose to spend thousands paying smugglers to put them on floating death traps in pursuit of what? Asylum? That is available in neighbouring states. If a Scottish mother took her weans on a boat trip in a rickety boat we would expect her to be prosecuted if the weans were drowned. Cry for the lost child, but we really have to protect our own children. Our future social structure. Our "rich" way of life. We must not be influenced by selected photographs. We will be finding excuses to invade before long, and that's why we are here in the first place. Children die in all sorts of scenarios all over the world every day. We could all spend every hour weeping.<br /><br />I really am sympathetic to their reasoning in looking for better things, but we need to man up. I cannot be responsible for every child drowned by the stupidity of its parents and the greed of people smugglers. However harrowing the images, this issue has to be resolved rationally.<br /><br />I agonise over comments like this. I do feel the pain of the parents. I know it is not what people here want to hear. But I speak to people every day who think the British closed door policy is correct.<br /><br />And I would caution against media reports. We know from Indyref that papers and the BBC pedal their own agenda. Impartial, reasoned fact is not on their agenda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-18783410434773521042015-09-02T22:10:46.507+01:002015-09-02T22:10:46.507+01:00What do you think we can actually do about it, imp...What do you think we can actually do about it, import more barking mad islamic religious lunatics ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-76969627287002355052015-09-02T21:38:47.993+01:002015-09-02T21:38:47.993+01:00Sorry for posting anonymously but I don't know...Sorry for posting anonymously but I don't know how to use the other options.<br /><br />If seeing such pictures gives folk a spur to put pressure on governments (who will be well aware of them and undoubtedly others which are not in the public domain) to help then they should be widely published.<br /><br />I saw a recent (not UK) new report on the Irish Navy still doing their bit rescuing boat loads of refugees. No mention of the RN since all the hype of sending a ship loaded with camera crews and reporters for a week. Having said that, there could be a Trident submarine in the area for all we know.<br /><br />Also - when did refugees suddenly become migrants? Is the UNHCR going to bow to pressure from Mr Top Table Cameron and become the UNHCM?<br /><br />FinnmacollieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-62651334158858162122015-09-02T21:28:57.364+01:002015-09-02T21:28:57.364+01:00Noticed this on twitter.
https://crowdfunding.jus...Noticed this on twitter.<br /><br /><a href="https://crowdfunding.justgiving.com/DundeeRefugeeSupport" rel="nofollow">https://crowdfunding.justgiving.com/DundeeRefugeeSupport</a>cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-79427847102468901672015-09-02T20:54:53.808+01:002015-09-02T20:54:53.808+01:00Thanks Anon. Let's get the traffickers first.
...Thanks Anon. Let's get the traffickers first.<br /><br />I heard that the Chinese were incredibly good at dealing with the pirates that operated off the East African coast. <br /><br />Maybe they could do the same again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-74459727880740446612015-09-02T20:53:20.980+01:002015-09-02T20:53:20.980+01:00Conan I'm truly sorry if that caused you pain....Conan I'm truly sorry if that caused you pain. I bet he gets an extra hug when you see him. Thank god it's not him.<br /><br />But he's some loving grandad's wee lad.<br /><br />Rage is right.<br /><br />Let's get these traffickers who sell passage on overladen rust buckets. Let's make them pay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-27953228057754366852015-09-02T20:51:10.677+01:002015-09-02T20:51:10.677+01:00The Middle East is such a mess.. I suspect mainly...The Middle East is such a mess.. I suspect mainly to the interference in earlier days of the French and the Brits. <br /><br />When they carved things up so selfishly, they never thought about the consequences of what they did.<br /><br />Of course the Iraq war left the whole massive Iraq territories open to Al-Qa'ida and IS adn the uprising against the Syrian government opened it up further.<br /><br />The defeat of dictatorial but strong leaders in Egypt and Libya have left North Africa in a totally unstable state with no one strong enough to contain the various factions that were forced to live together in one falsely constructed country.<br /><br />Let's be honest ...would you want to stay there?<br /><br />And who would you blame for the mess.<br /><br />People like Saddam or Qadaffi may not have been "nice" leaders, but they did what they had to to keep the peace, and as far as I could make out life in either of these countires was not incredibly awful.<br /><br />Until we poked our stupid noses in.<br /><br />Democracy doesn't work everywhere.<br /><br />In any case, the UK should be the last country in the West to be promoting it, given that there is so little of it at home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com