tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post6542007290512734068..comments2023-12-20T19:39:29.865+00:00Comments on Munguin's Republic: MEANWHILE IN SCOTLAND...Munguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-19636604505447663242016-08-02T22:18:23.364+01:002016-08-02T22:18:23.364+01:00May one add, as a student revolutionary in 1970s A...May one add, as a student revolutionary in 1970s Aberdeen, I was noted for the sophistication of my dinner parties. (Thank goodness for Chivas Brothers and Esslemont & Macintosh!). Being a socialist has never meant having to mix with the socially unacceptable. It certainly doesn't in my latest splendid milieu, although one find the presence of such as George Fouljes and Michelle Mone rather disconcerting. Not quite up to standard, frankly.Baron Darling of Flippinghomenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-21525358826145012562016-08-02T21:56:55.274+01:002016-08-02T21:56:55.274+01:00I was a teenage rebel. I was known as the Trotsky ...I was a teenage rebel. I was known as the Trotsky of Arboretum Avenue. When I was 19 I shocked Mummy's bridge chums with my radical beliefs. I was the first person in the Botanic Gardens to say the word "menstruation". Aloud. Beat that, Fidel! But now I have grown up and returned home. Grandpa's was Tory Provost of Edinburgh, after all, and blood will tell. I am magnificent, frankly.Baron Darling of Flippinghomenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-65082234911092409092016-08-01T23:35:36.286+01:002016-08-01T23:35:36.286+01:00I've been away - but I wore my YES shirt on Sa...I've been away - but I wore my YES shirt on Saturday in solidarity. <br /><br />Anyway, the estimating of crowds. Cheap drones. There is a method of estimating crowds. You allow 10 square feet for a loose crowd, 4.5 sq feet close crowd or 2.5 sq feet tight crowd ( like at a Barrowlands gig ). It should be possible using Google Earth, or a mapping program to estimate areas at Freedom Square, or the Concert Hall steps or Calton Hill. We just then need a quick drone aerial shot of the crowd and we can get our own estimates. <br /><br />We could do with a "unit" being set up to do this kind of work. We may be doing a lot of demonstrations in the months ahead - and you can be sure the British State will be doing their own estimating/ surveillance.<br /><br />S.A.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-23053861227183867982016-08-01T22:58:34.231+01:002016-08-01T22:58:34.231+01:00Is that the lovely Ray there?Is that the lovely Ray there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-42406447594189976662016-08-01T22:58:12.420+01:002016-08-01T22:58:12.420+01:00Aye, I don't think there's that much doubt...Aye, I don't think there's that much doubt about it.<br /><br />But we have to get more people on board, which we will only ever do by persuasion and logic.<br /><br />How many of the BT promises are yet to be broken?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-82667889581140432622016-08-01T21:49:04.724+01:002016-08-01T21:49:04.724+01:00Vile, frankly.Vile, frankly.Baron Darling of Flippinghomenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-63875429240626340722016-08-01T20:57:17.444+01:002016-08-01T20:57:17.444+01:00whilst even...
whilst even...<br />douglas clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11422060678908705962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-91927950672799571302016-08-01T20:51:41.247+01:002016-08-01T20:51:41.247+01:00Indeed it does, which, whilat within margin of err...Indeed it does, which, whilat within margin of error, rather blows a hole in Dean MscKinnon Thomson's rather selective approach to reality.<br /><br />Sub-sets of data do not matter as much as the meta data does.<br /><br />Here we have it:<br /><br />Should Scotland be an independent country?<br /><br />Yes 50.8%<br />No 49.2%<br /><br />Movement, either in my direction or yours Dean is what this is all about. Except, of course, the outcome of referendum 2, where your side has already blown all the ammunition that you had.<br /><br />Best wishes, but not in referendum 2.<br /><br />douglas clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11422060678908705962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-70528328528477961502016-08-01T19:50:18.978+01:002016-08-01T19:50:18.978+01:00Scotgoespop "poll of polls" (inc Yougov)...Scotgoespop "poll of polls" (inc Yougov) dated 30 July show pro-indie at 51%.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856929787041515440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-80680941388227085572016-08-01T18:21:28.618+01:002016-08-01T18:21:28.618+01:00To be fair, he's usually been against independ...To be fair, he's usually been against independence, Jutie, even when he was living here..<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-50764056090727188842016-08-01T18:19:00.123+01:002016-08-01T18:19:00.123+01:00From memory I thought that the only group that dec...From memory I thought that the only group that decidedly voted NO were the over 55s.<br /><br />But that's from memory. <br /><br />Jim: I guess if you are a Tory, then you want to have the government England usually votes for. You certainly don't want to be ruled by the Scots, who historically would have voted Labour and are at present likely to vote SNP.<br /><br />Maraki: Was the poll done all over UK?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-53325919817362652422016-08-01T18:09:01.653+01:002016-08-01T18:09:01.653+01:00NO Jim, Munguin made it up. He's bad that way!...NO Jim, Munguin made it up. He's bad that way!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-16439039205662433572016-08-01T18:07:57.364+01:002016-08-01T18:07:57.364+01:00Munguin will be there as long as it doesn't cl...Munguin will be there as long as it doesn't clash with his foreign visits to Hungary and Austria. (I think he's negotiating on behalf of Nicola, but of course I'm not privy to the details.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-31687909209912476542016-08-01T17:21:29.912+01:002016-08-01T17:21:29.912+01:00Dean is one of those proud Scotbuts that doesn'...Dean is one of those proud Scotbuts that doesn't actually live in Scotland.Jutemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11061671774494923407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-61216309610118569782016-08-01T17:14:56.899+01:002016-08-01T17:14:56.899+01:00I take it Dean, you now think Scotland outwith the...I take it Dean, you now think Scotland outwith the EU, but still in the UK is your favoured option. Even though we'd get governments which we largely didn't vote for, that's not democracy, that's a travesty.jimnarlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386665235191598525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-76525355672885329162016-08-01T16:39:24.349+01:002016-08-01T16:39:24.349+01:00Can you clarify please...what you are saying is th...Can you clarify please...what you are saying is that because 18 year olds "voted . . . for Better Together..." and 16 and 17 year-olds are "among the lowest turnout", then they were excluded from this latest poll? This assumes that they would not turn out / vote the same way now?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15856929787041515440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-71361673665828000902016-08-01T16:25:07.627+01:002016-08-01T16:25:07.627+01:00Plus I'd add in relation to not including EU c...Plus I'd add in relation to not including EU citizens living in Scotland, pollsters base their samples on eligibility to vote in GEs from what I understand. Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-71835456100589678582016-08-01T16:24:02.062+01:002016-08-01T16:24:02.062+01:0016-17 y/o being included would not have altered th...16-17 y/o being included would not have altered the headline figures in any meaningful way.<br /><br />16-17y/o have among the lowest turnout (see the two instances they have voted), and so even including them in the data; likelihood to vote methodology would strip a good portion of them out.<br /><br />Plus, can I also burst your bubble by highlighting that 'the youth' are not all pro-YES. 18 y/o voted decisively for BetterTogether in the indyref. Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-23836365278010811342016-08-01T13:21:51.924+01:002016-08-01T13:21:51.924+01:00totally agree, Tris. I live under a coalition coun...totally agree, Tris. I live under a coalition council ironically SNP/Labour! But for all their faults, miles better run than Glesga.<br /><br />Anyway I'm hearing twitter vibes that there will be another march. This time in Dundee! Maybe you should clear your diary in case Munguin deigns to attend.panda pawsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-2301121787216801512016-08-01T11:20:52.368+01:002016-08-01T11:20:52.368+01:00Sorry to burst your bubble but the YouGov poll has...Sorry to burst your bubble but the YouGov poll has been soundly discredited due to it's methodology. The research was done all over and also outside the UK. No 16-17 year olds were included,neither were EU citizens living in Scotland.marakihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02725415558008352524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-78457116296330122292016-08-01T10:48:54.718+01:002016-08-01T10:48:54.718+01:00Sorry to burst your anecdotal bubble but here are ...Sorry to burst your anecdotal bubble but here are the facts about what Scots actually think of separation:<br /><br />Scottish voters / On a choice between a Scotland...<br />In the EU and not part of the UK: 37%<br />Part of the UK and not in the EU: 46%<br />(via YouGov)<br /><br />Further:<br /><br />46 per cent think another referendum would have a negative impact on the economy while just 22 per cent think it would have a positive impact.<br /><br /> Asked to rank their priorities for the Scottish Government, the NHS (48 per cent) and the economy (40 per cent) came top while just 14 per cent holding another referendum on Scottish independence. <br /><br />http://www.scotlandinunion.co.uk/scots_reject_snap_referendum<br /><br />So from both those polls we can say that:<br /><br />1. Scots voters biggest priorities do not include a second indyref<br />2. Most Scots think indyref2 will harm our economic prospects<br />3. Majority of Scots would still reject separation.<br /><br /><br />So, have your indyref 'we are the 45' marches and rallies. Please, go on. Meanwhile the majority of Scots will pass you by as we try to focus on the real issues of the day.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-76803329623412504152016-08-01T10:37:58.585+01:002016-08-01T10:37:58.585+01:00Did the council actually display, that picture of,...Did the council actually display, that picture of, Flipper?jimnarlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386665235191598525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-33110004300609499752016-07-31T18:23:10.755+01:002016-07-31T18:23:10.755+01:00I think we only ever heard of the worst of them PP...I think we only ever heard of the worst of them PP.<br /><br />Bullying, property etc... but I imagine there were far more.<br /><br />They have served Glasgow so badly over the years. I hope they go next year. SNP councils may not be perfect, but they are a lot better than that lot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-84358159675949028032016-07-31T18:20:36.694+01:002016-07-31T18:20:36.694+01:00Well, I don't suppose they wanted to broadcast...Well, I don't suppose they wanted to broadcast the success of the march. I imagine the Corbynistas have the same problem when they get thousands at their meetings and old Smithy gets 85!<br /><br />As long as it takes, Bruce.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-56697593055586166182016-07-31T17:38:27.282+01:002016-07-31T17:38:27.282+01:00As yes Glasgow City Council - who's influence ...As yes Glasgow City Council - who's influence I lived under for most of my life. A law unto themselves and scandal upon scandal. Don't worry if you haven't heard of them - the MSM keeps them out the news.<br /><br />I'd like to think there will be a change of management next year but I thought that in the last council elections and Labour held on. If they do lose the council my how the shredders will be working overtime...panda pawsnoreply@blogger.com