tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post1994598524276312894..comments2023-12-20T19:39:29.865+00:00Comments on Munguin's Republic: SO THIS HAPPENED...ELECTION REFLECTIONS IIIMunguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-59966655162103630152015-05-12T00:14:30.892+01:002015-05-12T00:14:30.892+01:00Richy,
We are still hovering around the 50 - 52% ...Richy,<br /><br />We are still hovering around the 50 - 52% mark. We will not be free without another referendum. Let us see what evil the Tories try to inflict on us over the next few years. Och I don't know, recinding the ECHR so's they can reintroduce hanging: or Brexit, whatever.<br /><br /> If and when we get to 60 - 65% declaring they <i>want</i> independence, that is when all bets are off. It won't take long, IMHO.douglas clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11422060678908705962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-13088265045265650462015-05-11T19:19:28.667+01:002015-05-11T19:19:28.667+01:00Aye... we get what England votes for, and more tha...Aye... we get what England votes for, and more than ever what they vote for is NOT what we vote for.<br /><br />I simply don;t know how we can reconcile the two in teh same country.<br /><br />I wouldn't expect England to be dragged to the left by us, but I don;t see why we should be run by warmongering money grubbing neo-liberals.<br /><br />it seems that the only way is independence, but let's see what the politicians can come up with in the meantime.<br /><br />UDIs are messy...<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-60015188172184075982015-05-11T19:16:14.906+01:002015-05-11T19:16:14.906+01:00I mean they don't have a huge choice do they.
...I mean they don't have a huge choice do they.<br /><br />The Tories can only have Muddle; Labour can only have whatshisname, and the Liberals can only have Carmuddle.<br /><br />In the case of the Tories they should, in theory have someone to do the Minister of State job. Unfortunately for them no one was elected. <br /><br />So they will have to impose either a Scottish Lord, which is quite possible. Most departments with several ministers have someone who can answer questions in the other place. It doesn't really matter who they are, because most of the old fools sleep through it.<br /><br />Alternatively if they can fine one, they could appoint someone who is Scottish but represents an English or Welsh seat.<br /><br />Or they could leave Muddle to sort it out himself. The trouble is it may be quite a job this time, and Fluffy is hardly what you'd call a rising star, however nice a man he is. I think he might find the Scottish government above his pay band.<br /><br />On the other hand he probably wouldn't have a lot of trouble with whatsit or Carmichael.<br /><br />It must be worrying Cameron.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-71971281775857451092015-05-11T19:06:36.522+01:002015-05-11T19:06:36.522+01:00Yay, Anon... good one!!Yay, Anon... good one!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-89448736125554425242015-05-11T19:05:47.482+01:002015-05-11T19:05:47.482+01:00He seems to be relying on some regulations that sa...He seems to be relying on some regulations that say that, whilst you can resign if you want after humiliation (like Mr Miliband did, despite his humiliation being far less), they can't actually get rid of you, except at a Conference.<br /><br />But if the unions say there is no money, and Shadow Cabinet members with some principles resign, then i guess he will find life impossible.<br /><br />FMQs should be fun this week.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-22755777251516159902015-05-11T19:02:36.789+01:002015-05-11T19:02:36.789+01:00Ha ha... Alex...
I'm up for that, although Mu...Ha ha... Alex...<br /><br />I'm up for that, although Munguin informs me that he spent the money for competitions on Lobster Bisque for his dinner, so there is no prize!<br /><br />"Come on. Have a go, if you think your hard enough!"<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-39938706588057745752015-05-11T19:00:17.243+01:002015-05-11T19:00:17.243+01:00It's probably a way off. At the moment the pre...It's probably a way off. At the moment the press and the Tories are stirring up anti Scottish sentiment in England. That will probably die away, but the uninformed in England (see article in the Herald) really do think that we are dreadful people who live off English taxes, far better than the English and now these savages are going to come down and interfere in their parliament!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-56259496741465930572015-05-11T18:56:05.862+01:002015-05-11T18:56:05.862+01:00I know that they have to become separate, and yet ...I know that they have to become separate, and yet they have to remain the same.<br /><br />It beats me.<br /><br />Somehow they manage to make it work in Americva...more or less...<br /><br />Danny explained to me that Democrats in the Northern state and Democrats in the southern state are miles apart. And some Republicans in teh North arte more like Democrats in the South...<br /><br />The Tories need to do it too.<br /><br />But I do;t see how it will work if they have to obey the orders of London in Westminster.<br /><br />It is going to look as if none of them actually have any beliefs or principles.<br /><br />Oh yeah....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-70873447436302002432015-05-11T18:51:50.892+01:002015-05-11T18:51:50.892+01:00Bless him...we like his style.Bless him...we like his style.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-65943803566757558372015-05-11T18:51:15.077+01:002015-05-11T18:51:15.077+01:00I'm sure Niko would never bar anyone from his ...I'm sure Niko would never bar anyone from his blog.... :)<br /><br />I can't post of Wings or Bruce's blog. <br /><br />I'm sure neither has barred me.<br /><br />It's to do with cookies, but well more than Munguin or I know how to sort!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-82897929128394371542015-05-11T16:13:43.500+01:002015-05-11T16:13:43.500+01:00Even if Labour in Scotland become a truly independ...Even if Labour in Scotland become a truly independent organisation, they will take up the party whip at Westminster and be outnumbered by the right leaning "national" Labour party.jimnarlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02231790902689695587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-82433695145368538132015-05-11T14:41:40.943+01:002015-05-11T14:41:40.943+01:00Voters will never trust Labour again Tris.
This e...Voters will never trust Labour again Tris.<br /><br />This election victory wasn't a surprise . We were told daily how the numbers were rising in the indi parties and the SNP membership in particular was huge.<br /><br />We , at this moment, already have an oppostion in Scotland. It's the WM parties. After indi we would see a right rainbow of true Scots parties but Labour will never be one of them. <br /><br />They are hated now. more toxic than the tory's .... Says it all. And the proof is only a few days old and they still deny it.<br /><br />Two months ago the bookmakers were offering 25/1 for less than 30 seats. 11/10 for more than 40. Why anyone was surprised was beyond me. Incidently they got the referendum spot on too. I have yet to meet a poor bookie.<br /><br />These are my own beliefs Tris. I know i am biased and am still gonna work towards indi regardless of the result but take a good look at the size of the majorities overturned and they were hammered on an extinction event level. <br /><br />This show the huge difference between Scotland and the rUK.<br /><br />Once again a tory govt has been forced onto us and i doubt very much that we will wait for 5 more years of cuts and sanctions to do something.<br /><br />Surely in legal terms the Unionist parties have no right to rule us . They are only represented by a single mp from each one and a tiny minority got them over the line.<br /><br />They have no mandate to rule here . The Scots have spoken.<br /><br />2017 we will be an independent country. Or why bother voting at all. England ALWAYS gets the party it votes for and anything else is a lie.<br /><br />Just saying Tris.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15020065175027105068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-12149758093430848472015-05-11T13:51:45.123+01:002015-05-11T13:51:45.123+01:00I don't know but Ian Murray, anti Trident Labo...I don't know but Ian Murray, anti Trident Labour MP has been appointed Shadow Governor General!! I guess Cameron is appointing the important ministers first - I mean Scotland that's where he goes hunting, it's not like it really means anything. Maybe Cameron's considering doing it himself in between chillaxing? <br /><br />panda pawsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-62103996957825777632015-05-11T13:23:15.119+01:002015-05-11T13:23:15.119+01:00British Labour,dominated by the politics of Englan...British Labour,dominated by the politics of England,is agonising over whether to remain Tory lite or become the real thing.<br />Jim Murphy is waiting to see who emerges as the leader and is clearly hoping for someone of his own political persuasion who might be keen to keep a right wing politician in charge of their Scottish branch,no matter what the plebs might think.<br />Another Westminster place man in Scotland.<br />Anyone know if Blundell has been appointed Governor General yet?<br /><br />bringitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10712089398887269381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-63639759022250615952015-05-11T12:24:41.384+01:002015-05-11T12:24:41.384+01:00Wow As they say, If looks could kill, David Camero...Wow As they say, If looks could kill, David Cameron would not be celebrating an election victory, but being mourned by a few instead.<br />I must be in love with Nicola, for every time I see or listen to her my heart jumps. But I guess I am not alone there. Scotland is blessed to be led by such an incredible woman. <br />I had to keep going back to the picture to realise it has a Mona Lisa effect. Do those eyes hold contempt, pity, or perhaps compassion for a lost soul. Whatever, for me they hold the perfect balance of steel and compassion. A caption offering " the eyes have it." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-2097485819014371172015-05-11T11:48:14.244+01:002015-05-11T11:48:14.244+01:00I don't think Jim will be allowed to survive. ...I don't think Jim will be allowed to survive. If there is one skill the Labour party has honed to perfection, it is backstabbing.<br />I think they have a special breeding programme for sacrificial goats.Humerous Vegetablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06749447163866759111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-19745250894720257582015-05-11T11:21:18.935+01:002015-05-11T11:21:18.935+01:00That picture at the top is just begging for a capt...That picture at the top is just begging for a caption competition. The look Teflon Dave's getting! I'll start,<br />"Just you wait till you find out what you've actually won, Davie-boy."alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-91005087925533803492015-05-11T11:12:15.862+01:002015-05-11T11:12:15.862+01:00Tris I agree about Norway and Sweden, they can wor...Tris I agree about Norway and Sweden, they can work together, they are still fond enough of each other for Swedes to joke about becoming Norwegian. I can never see that happening here.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03930463301985234273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-50953645390772633382015-05-11T11:09:38.968+01:002015-05-11T11:09:38.968+01:00i doubt that you will meet anyone in the SNP who w...i doubt that you will meet anyone in the SNP who would argue anything different, unlike Labour who spent the whole of the Referendum holding meetings indoors with select people we have been out speaking with people. We want a principled opposition something not one Branch of the Labour Party has managed to be for decades. They turned Tory to win England, therefore they lost Scotland. They will have to break the apron strings to become "Scottish" but some how I cannot see that happening any time soon. They are the authors of their own misfortune, they needed no assistance. Ed Miliband allowed the Tories to write his script and showed him up for the weak leader he was. A bit more back bone, an few less lies and he might have been PM today. Jim Murphy, well a man with no ideas, even less conscience, better with Neil Findlay, and even then I am not too sure.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03930463301985234273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-84758417171004173152015-05-11T10:58:17.941+01:002015-05-11T10:58:17.941+01:00Well he is being supported in his ambition by the ...Well he is being supported in his ambition by the SNP supporters as the best Leader Labour could have.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03930463301985234273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-66658397542269168772015-05-11T10:55:46.137+01:002015-05-11T10:55:46.137+01:00Niko, until there is a "Scottish " labou...Niko, until there is a "Scottish " labour you are voting for the party who voted or abstained all the way through the last Parliament on the subject of much which affected the poor and disabled. How does your conscience survive. Meant to ask am I barred from your Blog, because I would have thought someone with a more liberal turn would not be all bad. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03930463301985234273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-71771783421353444982015-05-11T10:17:07.820+01:002015-05-11T10:17:07.820+01:00I really don;t know what people in England think. ...I really don;t know what people in England think. My mate from London is a real socialist. He supports the likes of Dennis Skinner. He wants Labour to be a pre Blair party.<br /><br />But I hear today that Blair and Mandelson and others are saying the party has to go back into the middle ground. They need another Blair ... Chuka Umunna or David Miliband maybe, to win enough votes in England, or at least in the South.<br /><br />That won't begin to cut it in Scotland. Certainly not while the SNP is there, led by Nicola Sturgeon.<br /><br />The problem is that we are two different countries. Much more so that Norway and Sweden are two different countries.<br /><br />The same solutions won't work.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-79730644031454634782015-05-11T07:22:03.387+01:002015-05-11T07:22:03.387+01:00Thanks for looking.
I was sort of astonished that...Thanks for looking.<br /><br />I was sort of astonished that this was an apparent apology piece for Ed.<br /><br />Am I alone in thinking that it all went wrong for Ed in England when he didn't put clear blue water between himself and the Tories over further austerity? In other words a widening of the gap between Labour and Conservatives in England might have been beneficial? Adopting Keynsian economics if he couldn't bring himself to say 'I agree with the SNP'?<br /><br />I doubt any of that would have made the slightest difference up here. It really is a different country these days...douglas clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11422060678908705962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-57835775033636120702015-05-11T00:23:52.901+01:002015-05-11T00:23:52.901+01:00Not sure about Cameron being competent.
The econo... Not sure about Cameron being competent.<br /><br />The economy is completely in the tank. The debt is out of control, the deficit is still up there, the NHS is in crisis... the paedo crisis is not being dealt with, immigration is up not down, Of course every government has problems but I'd hardly call that last lot competent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-85108455673474282112015-05-11T00:10:51.176+01:002015-05-11T00:10:51.176+01:00Thanks Douglas. I'll get over there.Thanks Douglas. I'll get over there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com