tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post9036218588391980615..comments2023-12-20T19:39:29.865+00:00Comments on Munguin's Republic: IS THERE TROUBLE TO COME ON THE STREETS OF BRITISH CITIES?Munguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-27929728528594999092013-05-31T23:53:43.165+01:002013-05-31T23:53:43.165+01:00Yes. You could well be right there, Niko. I just h...Yes. You could well be right there, Niko. I just hate the pain it causes the poor, but in the end, if we just sit back and let them take us... then that is what they will do.<br /><br />I understand that Cameron is happy with foodbanks, because he thinks it's the Big Society working.<br /><br />People shouldn't depend on the state; they should depend on the charity of others, thinks the Eton boy.<br /><br />The point is what happens if one week no one gives anything to the foodbanks?<br /><br />All the children starve to death?<br /><br />Does that suit Cameron?<br /><br />My god how I hate that man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-23171368045203712662013-05-30T11:12:52.008+01:002013-05-30T11:12:52.008+01:00tris
there is no other way never was really we f...tris <br /><br />there is no other way never was really we fooled ourselves and our children pay the pricenikonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-43558763894073318692013-05-29T23:10:51.544+01:002013-05-29T23:10:51.544+01:00Hello Niko, my boy. You've been lying low rece...Hello Niko, my boy. You've been lying low recently. Has Mrs Niko got you decorating or something?<br /><br />I see your point ... and trust you to be quoting Sparticus at us...<br /><br />What I said was I didn't' want riots because it's never the rich and powerful that are hurt by this kinda thing. <br /><br />I mean, the only thing that happened to a famous person, last year was that someone poked Mrs Parker Bowels with a stick... because she was daft enough to open her window. (A subsequent misfortune for one of the golden people was that, in recounting the atrocity, where the royal tart was defiled by a mere pleb who wasn't even at Oxford, on the BBC the next day, Boris Johnson nearly had a heart attack. Nearly but not quite...Heigh Ho!)<br /><br />The poor, on the other hand, lost their homes and had their shops burned to the ground, or looted, and were sent to prison for twice as long (for stealing a bottle of water) as Chris Huhne was for lying and perjuring himself, whilst one of her Majesty's secretaries of state, and three times as long as the Noble (erm, sorry) Ignoble Fat Lard haddington who had been ripping off the taxpayer for years.<br /><br />However appealing the idea of hanging some bankers from lampposts is, you can rest assured that no stone would be left unturned to find the perpetrators of this crime and that the prime minister would instructs the English courts system to be unusually harsh, unless they had been to Eton, of course.<br /><br />Dunno how you beat these bastards, maybe it is by riots, but i have a few friends who were living in London last time round in 2011 and it was, for them, utterly terrifying. They honestly didn't know if the crowd were going to burn their houses down.<br /><br />I'd rather it was another way.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-23932998929516519832013-05-29T22:56:03.357+01:002013-05-29T22:56:03.357+01:00Gotta say that, although I appreciate that it is i...Gotta say that, although I appreciate that it is illegal to go around stabbing people who stole money from you, it is more or less understandable.<br /><br />I think the bankers have to realise that we are angry, and frankly they don't, do they?<br /><br />And because they don't realise how angry we are, they continue on their merry way of cheating and stealing as much as they can with no regard for the consequences. The consequences, of course, never touch them personally.<br /><br />Being dead is one way of the consequences touching you very personally.<br /><br />Pour dĂ©courager les autres, peut-ĂȘtre!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-87815459888694324342013-05-29T22:47:11.979+01:002013-05-29T22:47:11.979+01:00Lordy yes... those of a gentille disposition shoul...Lordy yes... those of a gentille disposition should not listen. It's very sweary.<br /><br />But it's true.<br /><br />We live in a completely mad country where banksters as corrupt as Goldman Sachs are given the right to sell off one of the few assets that the country still has. The post office.<br /><br />The Scottish postal workers were right to come out in favour of YES. They will be sold down the riven on this, and the only winner will be....<br /><br />Goldman Sachs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-25871060776659968152013-05-29T22:41:08.078+01:002013-05-29T22:41:08.078+01:00I agree with you Dean...although I don't think...I agree with you Dean...although I don't think that's enough, and I also agree with CH. No one will even consider any of that.<br /><br />a) There should never have been segregation in education. There should not be a state religion or a state church. The idea is an anachronism dating to the time that the king told you what you believed in. That said Blair not only liked it, he introduced more faith schools. Can't see any party including that in their manifesto, including the SNP.<br /><br />b) The people with power, money and influence will give it up exactly 5 days from the end of the world. No party will seriously try to take power away from the rich, including the SNP, although they will do a bit of redistribution of wealth.<br /><br />c)Even under Labour the gap between rich and poor grew, which inevitably damaged the earlier good Labour had done of the fight against child poverty. Cameron and Osborne should be shot for what they are doing. Labour MIGHT re-introduce some of the changes, but I wouldn't hold your breath. VAT should be reduced and income tax increased to make up the difference. That would go a little way to helping the poorest workers.<br /><br />d) Proportional representation would result in a big drop in seats for the Tories and labour. It's not going to happen. It should of course. It's the Liberals' only hope, but they had the chance and they blew it big time. If I'd been Clegg it would have been my absolute demand. Proper PR or else you're not going to be prime minister, Cameron!<br /><br />e) and re regulation of buses. Totally agree with that (Water is not privatised in Scotland.)<br /><br />f) Yes, rent control was the way to deal with the mad increase in benefits for housing. The government set maximum allowances for each area, and no matter how run down and disgusting the apartments/houses are, the rent is charged according to that maximum.<br /><br />It was madness to do that. A charter for slums. It must be reversed and rents should be set reasonably. But of course, that would have a devastating affect on the price of property, and no one will do that.<br /><br />I don't really disagree with anything you say Dean. I just know that no one will do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-39094392722786451612013-05-29T22:27:05.275+01:002013-05-29T22:27:05.275+01:00MMMMM Tuna and cheese wrap... lovely.
Yep, hope t...MMMMM Tuna and cheese wrap... lovely.<br /><br />Yep, hope they had one with bones, and that Camerons had live piranha in it!<br /><br />Yes a lot of people criticise the French for their 'direct action', but the truth is they get pushed around far less by a government that knows it has to be careful what it does. As a result their education, health and transport are almost unbelievable to British eyes.<br /><br />This lot in Westminster know that we will tut tut and shake our heads and call them 'bastards' for a few days... and now blog about it, but that's about as far as it goes.<br /><br />You can do almost anything to the Brits before they get off their backsides and do something. Some would say that's a good thing. A peace loving, law-abiding society...some would say otherwise. A bit of both would probably be the truth.<br /><br />The poll tax riots in London more or less brought down Thatcher. Even the Tories thought she'd gone to far, and so they stabbed her in the back!<br /><br />(If they'd only done it 8 years before it would have saved the country a lot of misery.)<br /><br />Maybe this summer's almost inevitable riots will bring down Carmerarse and his glove puppet.<br /><br />Yep... the Dees are in total meltdown. I've only seen the Tele headlines but it looks serious. <br /><br />They've kinda been hanging on by their fingernails for a long time though. Is this the end? My mate Stuart is gonna be devastated!<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-47840076911701665432013-05-29T22:23:36.756+01:002013-05-29T22:23:36.756+01:00pa says
It paints a bleak picture but I have no do...<br /><br />pa says<br />It paints a bleak picture but I have no doubt it is an accurate depiction of what went on and what might happen. No one wants to see riots or unrest<br /><br />tris says <br /><br />No Pa, I dount anyone really wants riots<br /><br />Cowards lilly livered bleeding heart liberals sitting cosy by<br />yer fires tapping away on yer ipads....<br /><br /><br />riot is the only thing the English tory scum are frit off<br />look what it dun for the poll tax???????<br /><br /><br /> Tigranes Levantus: If you looked into a magic crystal, you saw your army destroyed and yourself dead. If you saw that in the future, as I'm sure you're seeing it now, would you continue to fight?<br /><br />Spartacus: Yes.<br /><br />Tigranes Levantus: Knowing that you must lose?<br /><br />Spartacus: Knowing we can. All men lose when they die and all men die. But a slave and a free man lose different things.<br /><br />Tigranes Levantus: They both lose life.<br /><br />Spartacus: When a free man dies, he loses the pleasure of life. A slave loses his pain. Death is the only freedom a slave knows. That's why he's not afraid of it. That's why we'll win. <br />nikohttp://nikosbar.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-70936339268883530582013-05-29T21:53:25.423+01:002013-05-29T21:53:25.423+01:00The average Spaniard is suffering, and the situati...<a href="http://www.maxkeiser.com/2013/05/police-officer-stabs-banker-who-sold-him-shares-in-bankia/" rel="nofollow">The average Spaniard is suffering, and the situation has gotten to the point where on Sunday, a police officer stabbed a former Bankia employee four times after a heated discussion related to the sale of preferred shares in the failed banking group.</a>cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-37211541822029237772013-05-29T18:25:07.750+01:002013-05-29T18:25:07.750+01:00Which imaginary party has that in their manifesto ...Which imaginary party has that in their manifesto for a UK election?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.maxkeiser.com/2013/05/hahahahaha-this-is-what-bankster-occupation-looks-like/" rel="nofollow">Warning contains sweary words.</a>cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-31986079634128294182013-05-29T15:45:44.013+01:002013-05-29T15:45:44.013+01:00To avoid this kind of civil unrest we should consi...To avoid this kind of civil unrest we should consider:<br /><br />a) ending segregation in education, abolish religious schooling.<br /><br />b) redistribution, of power, in the economy.<br /><br />c) reintroducing EMA, and refocusing the war against childhood poverty - reversing the damage inflicted by the condem coalition<br /><br />d) proportional representation (to end all the scandal of rotten boroughs, and votes which just don't count)<br /><br />e) renationalisations, of rail, of water, of energy <br /><br />f) full rent controls, and major new social housing construction<br /><br />Maybe this can improve social justice, re-enfranchise the excluded sub class.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-46877439294206486342013-05-29T13:31:57.293+01:002013-05-29T13:31:57.293+01:00Tris
The more and more that people find out the a...Tris<br /><br />The more and more that people find out the angrier they will get. No one supports riots, other than the French , but how do people express their will when the politicians of the day ignore their opinions and feelings. Salmond has been called a Nazi while the collective of what is the current system are operating in that very way.<br /><br />I think the article is spot on, you can only push people so far and they will fight back and that might mean they fight back against the Police also. If this government and the previous had had any sense they would have held the bankers out to dry, instead they decided to support them by not doing anything. When Iceland was the model we should have been looking to they looked at their own kind and decided to take the gamble that we are all too fucking stupid, fat, lazy to do anything about it. That time might be changing, I don't think I have been as angry as I am about the current situation, this is worse than the 80s as the attacks are so open.<br /><br />If this governemtn go ahead with more austerity at 10% of all budgets then we are in for very interesting times indeed and I agree possibly a YES vote.<br /><br />Bruce<br /><br />PS<br /><br />What a day, the Dees are in meltdown and in civil war and the country is on it's knees. At least my tuna and cheese wrap for lunch was tasty, I hope Cameron, Osbourne, Moore, Miliband, IDS fucking choke on theirs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-78965571461951965002013-05-29T13:12:23.569+01:002013-05-29T13:12:23.569+01:00And I should add, having read Wings, we are about ...And I should add, having read Wings, we are about to pay even more for even less if Osborne has his way.<br /><br />Doubtless his take from the UK will not be reduced?<br /><br />Government ministers who agree to a ten percent drop in their departmental budgets should have the same amount deducted from their salaries. That'd soon make them think.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-7728105306555657342013-05-29T13:09:10.498+01:002013-05-29T13:09:10.498+01:00No Pa, I dount anyone really wants riots. The peop...No Pa, I dount anyone really wants riots. The people who are hurt are usually the poor. It's their areas that are burned down. Small businesses are wiped out, often under insured and left bankrupted.<br /><br />But how much can people take of the whole burden being taken by the poor.<br /><br />Has the Queen lost one of her palaces?<br /><br />Has the prime minister lost Chequers?<br /><br />Have the MPs taken a drop in salary or in pension entitlements?<br /><br />have the lords had a reduction in their "expenses"?<br /><br />Have the bankers taken a drop?<br /><br />Have the sick been hit?<br /><br />Have the unemployed and low paid been hit?<br /><br />Are the old about to be hit?<br /><br />The answers to these questions say all we need to know about the agenda of this stinking UK government of spivs and the unpleasant country they run.<br /><br />I have to stop being a part of it one w2ay or another.<br /><br />As for the bankers. As my peace loving, god fearing mother was want to point out. The first one of them found hanging from a lamppost will be a signal to the rest. Give it back you greedy self serving thieving scumbags.<br /><br />As you say. Westminster won't do anything about it except talk. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-64617091439075765522013-05-29T13:02:01.816+01:002013-05-29T13:02:01.816+01:00I don't think there is much doubt that there i...I don't think there is much doubt that there is a strong chance of a yes vote. It's a big mountain to climb, but the more that the whole notion of Better Together actually being BETTER.<br /><br />I mean only yesterday Osborne was boasting about getting people to agree to cut. IDS is agreeing to more cuts so that they don't have to come from the military. The unemployed, the sick, the old, ...all are suffering so that we can keep our place at the top table...or rather so that THEY can have a place at the top table, because I'm never invited, dunno about you.<br /><br />Things can only get worse...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-71525568980335083302013-05-29T09:29:32.395+01:002013-05-29T09:29:32.395+01:00It paints a bleak picture but I have no doubt it i...It paints a bleak picture but I have no doubt it is an accurate depiction of what went on and what might happen. No one wants to see riots or unrest, the people who end up paying the costs are those same SME's he talks about.<br /><br />At the risk of sounding wishy washy, someone needs to lead this, it'll never happen otherwise. Up here we have an alternative - England has UKIP - who are even more Tory than the Tories.<br /><br />However, I don't (nor did I ever) think bankers with bloated pensions should be able to hide behind 'contract' law in order to hold on to their undoubtedly ill-gotten gains. No other criminal does, so why them?<br /><br />Will Westminster do anything about it? Of course they won't, its beyond fixing which is one of the main reasons I have for voting yes in 2014.<br /><br />pa_broon74https://www.blogger.com/profile/01915208411019621104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-51661044306300659962013-05-29T08:57:24.592+01:002013-05-29T08:57:24.592+01:00Tris
An outstanding article and covering somethin...Tris<br /><br />An outstanding article and covering something that I think a lot of us have been saying may happen sometime in the next year. If trouble does kick off it will kick off in England first, and while there may some knock on effect in Scotland it would be less due to our nature as a society. What will be interesting is if any social unrest had an impact on the polls which I suspect it would.<br /><br />I was chatting to people at a training course yesterday about things that are happening in Scotland but mainly the campaign for next year. What was very refreshing for myself, while most were in the don't know camp, there was a feeling that Labour have failed Scotland big time. Some were Labour voters and saying that they don't believe the polls as many of them are starting to lean towards yes and know many others. They felt that Labour are more out of touch than they were in 2011 and are just the Tory party now, they were crying out for a truly left wing alternative.<br /><br />With Currans foreigner mistake, Lamonts stupid attacks on cancer drugs and mistake of using an individual case so publicily, the continued and surprising issue of McCrone in certain parts of the online media, not the BBC of course, maintaining a high profile and the ' bedroom tax ' picking up pace we might just start to see an upturn in the polls and the pressure really starting to hit the bitter together mob.<br /><br />The article, which I will share as much as I can, really illustrates my continued loathing of both Labour and in particular Gordon ' make a million ' Brown. Yesterday and today have given me renewed hope that the battles is still on for a YES.<br /><br />BruceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com