tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post7576311411220542237..comments2023-12-20T19:39:29.865+00:00Comments on Munguin's Republic: DAVID HAS MADE MR FORSYTH CROSSMunguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-62612340787772712722012-02-23T18:38:56.065+00:002012-02-23T18:38:56.065+00:00Tris
Blair should have been aware of unintended c...Tris<br /><br />Blair should have been aware of unintended consequences. Remember the Labour mantra "devolution would kill nationalism stone dead" They truly believed that.<br /><br />Labour in Scotland now truly believe that standing shoulder to shoulder with the torys, opposing independence, supporting David Camerons right to be Prime Minister and impose all his right wing policies on Scotland even though we as a nation reject these policies, will have no electoral consequences for their party.<br /><br />This could make "devolution would kill nationalism stone dead" look like a minor mistake by comparison.Dubbiesidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14351210091827242674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-78342641133386995292012-02-23T16:46:12.127+00:002012-02-23T16:46:12.127+00:00LOL "Something in the soup".
Steve, I a...LOL "Something in the soup".<br /><br />Steve, I assume, yeah I vaguely remember that night from the dim and distant past.<br /><br />I remember thinking... new beginning, away from the misery of the past... <br /><br />Of course, I was largely wrong. <br /><br />But we must remember that no matter how cack-handed it was, and no matter how devious his motives, Blair did give us our first steps to independence.<br /><br />Something in the soup indeed... :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-55422928136883018372012-02-23T13:39:38.669+00:002012-02-23T13:39:38.669+00:00I stayed up for 1997. A bit past Portillo getting ...I stayed up for 1997. A bit past Portillo getting dumped<br /><br />Even with two hours sleep I went to work happy and full of joys<br /><br />Dean. You might want to reflect on why people felt that way. It wasn't something in the soup that turned us all anti-ToryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-10852951053824635232012-02-23T10:50:57.323+00:002012-02-23T10:50:57.323+00:00Not a well loved man then, Ged?Not a well loved man then, Ged?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-42112631248717308342012-02-23T10:16:09.786+00:002012-02-23T10:16:09.786+00:00Dubbieside,
"I still have a soft spot for Me...Dubbieside,<br /><br />"I still have a soft spot for Mental Micky Forsyth"<br /><br />Me too. It's called quicksand.Gedguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18217515188959770657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-65165910737185707382012-02-22T22:35:58.929+00:002012-02-22T22:35:58.929+00:00There seems to be nothing of Forsyth on Youtube Du...There seems to be nothing of Forsyth on Youtube Dubs.<br /><br />Maybe once you reach nobleness you can get them taken down.<br /><br />LOL...very unfair indeed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-72713556180406784642012-02-22T22:03:43.657+00:002012-02-22T22:03:43.657+00:00Tris
Particularly when it is Michael Forsyth.
I ...Tris<br /><br />Particularly when it is Michael Forsyth.<br /><br />I wish I could find that clip of Micky on UTube.<br /><br />Is comparing Micky with Freddy Kruger not very unfair on Freddy.Dubbiesidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14351210091827242674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-7248251494425995612012-02-22T20:48:10.721+00:002012-02-22T20:48:10.721+00:00LOL I love it when the publicity hungry politician...LOL I love it when the publicity hungry politician's plans go belly up... don't you? :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-34548389241056136892012-02-22T20:47:17.958+00:002012-02-22T20:47:17.958+00:00Oh Dubs, I thought he'd stood down.
That make...Oh Dubs, I thought he'd stood down.<br /><br />That makes his situation even more ridiculous. The voters throw him out, but Mr Blair and the Queen know better than the voters and they put him into the house of parliament that us ordinary people have no vote for...<br /><br />Wrong!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-18207404416166087612012-02-22T12:45:16.733+00:002012-02-22T12:45:16.733+00:00Dean...
"Forsyth actually held up the Tory vo...Dean...<br />"Forsyth actually held up the Tory vote better in Stirling than any other lost Tory seat in 1997."<br /><br />Wow that's a brilliant claim to fame lol.<br /><br />A 17% swing from Tory to Labour was a good result in your book ?<br />And to Ms McGuire who was on an illegal 'all women shortlist' and whose only claim to fame is introducing a bill on homeopathy ?<br />But it was pretty irrelevant. You couldn't get a cigarette paper between the two of them ( strong supporters of the Iraq war, EU, Union etc). And both happy to move to the other troughers house if the chance became available.Montynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-91457038507521352392012-02-22T12:28:25.633+00:002012-02-22T12:28:25.633+00:00Dubbie,
Forsyth actually held up the Tory vote be...Dubbie,<br /><br />Forsyth actually held up the Tory vote better in Stirling than any other lost Tory seat in 1997. <br /><br />His local reputation as a 'good' constituency MP helped keep labour in check. <br /><br />Of course his good work locally has been totally squandered since...Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-43754651009047033212012-02-22T11:09:47.762+00:002012-02-22T11:09:47.762+00:00Tris
My favourite Micky memory when he was SOS ag...Tris<br /><br />My favourite Micky memory when he was SOS against Scotland and thought that the great wheeze of giving us back the Stone of Destiny would save his seat.<br /><br />He arranged for TV coverage of him welcoming the stone back at Coldstream. Unfortunately the stone was delayed. The look on his face when he saw his TV coverage going down the swannie was priceless.Dubbiesidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14351210091827242674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-25354058651986136892012-02-22T11:03:43.940+00:002012-02-22T11:03:43.940+00:00Dean
Micky boy was turfed out by the voters in St...Dean<br /><br />Micky boy was turfed out by the voters in Stirling in the 1997 general election. (see Wikipedia ministers who lost their seat)<br /><br />Of course we respect the voters of Stirling they had the sense to get rid of him and they will never elect a tory again.<br /><br />Do torys still hold on to their deposits in Stirling Dean?Dubbiesidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14351210091827242674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-20163715907151110662012-02-22T10:50:16.851+00:002012-02-22T10:50:16.851+00:00What I object to, Monty, is people who may (as Dea...What I object to, Monty, is people who may (as Dean suggests)have been relatively successful constituency MPs, but certainly were no statesmen as ministers, being rewarded with knighthoods and seats in the "other place", for nothing, from where they can lead campaigns and introduce legislation without ever having to stand up and let the people speak.<br /><br />I wouldn't mind so much if, as is the excuse, they are experts, elder statesmen. In long gone days it was ex PMs and Foreign Secretaries that went to the Lords.<br /><br />But now it's every Tom, Mick and Ffoulkes, and they have only very limited experience of power and nothing much to offer.<br /><br />SoS for Scotland is now the very lowest Cabinet job; when Forsyth had it it was probably higher than Wales, but still right at the bottom. And yet this guy is like Coe. He has every title going.<br /><br />You have to wonder when they are going to co-opt both of them into the royal family!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-28412030284151582122012-02-22T10:40:44.736+00:002012-02-22T10:40:44.736+00:00Dean, he may well have been a good constituency MP...Dean, he may well have been a good constituency MP, but as SoS he managed to do such a good job for Scotland that they rewarded his party by kicking out every single Tory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-64876849088410266362012-02-22T09:25:04.182+00:002012-02-22T09:25:04.182+00:00I love seeing fetid old never has beens like Forsy...I love seeing fetid old never has beens like Forsyth nudged awake from their slumbers and brought into the fray. <br />Their vigorous campaigns against devolution, minimum wage et al failed miserably so hopefully they will fail again with their campaign against independence. Although just watch their twitching snouts run around Scotland carpetbagging a seat ( MaryScanlonesque) if we ever got independence.<br />Forsyth seems to be the champion of lost causes. A bit like Dean wiping Rumpey Pumpey's brow as the baying mob are hammering at the EU gates wanting their revenge for his destruction of their countries.Montynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-28811145756764699412012-02-22T01:51:54.521+00:002012-02-22T01:51:54.521+00:00Forsyth isn't freddie kruger, he won every ele...Forsyth isn't freddie kruger, he won every election when he was the scottish first minister/junior minister.<br /><br />Respect the voters of Stirling please.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-54234580759559517772012-02-21T19:39:10.405+00:002012-02-21T19:39:10.405+00:00Eskerrik asko. Zorte onEskerrik asko. Zorte onAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-70417555388070633992012-02-21T18:53:57.508+00:002012-02-21T18:53:57.508+00:00I suspect that Murdoch's intervention will for...I suspect that Murdoch's intervention will force the other MSM to up their game in the childrens fairy tales they tell.<br /><br /><a href="http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://landa-larrazabal.blogspot.com/2012/02/free-euskotland-intervencion-andoni.html&ei=HeVDT__ZOYmx0QWvjLGPDw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCUQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://landa-larrazabal.blogspot.com/2012/02/free-euskotland-intervencion-andoni.html%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dopera%26hs%3DkPG%26rls%3Den%26channel%3Dsuggest%26prmd%3Dimvns" rel="nofollow">EUSKOTLAND FREE!</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp4UuC0_GXM" rel="nofollow">Ihauteriak 2012 Free Euskotland!</a>cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-16619165810807898432012-02-21T17:18:29.413+00:002012-02-21T17:18:29.413+00:00Yep Steve, we're working on it.
You know, the...Yep Steve, we're working on it.<br /><br />You know, they called Glasgow the Second City of the Empire. <br /><br />The Empire that made Britain rich. But yet, in the second city of this rich empire they had people living in filthy, damp two-roomed houses with outside toilets, 5 sleeping in a room, with tuberculosis, whooping cough, polio, diphtheria... and so on.<br /><br />Aye, we did well out of the Empire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-51382708703186829692012-02-21T14:53:28.116+00:002012-02-21T14:53:28.116+00:00Empire Days eh, my goodness those from the [Britis...Empire Days eh, my goodness those from the [British] ruling class did make a lot of enemies back then.<br /><br />My West Country ancestors were scratching the earth for pennies but we get the 'Empire Guilt' shoved our way just the same.<br /><br />Want to know about the North Atlantic slave trade, why ask any farm labourer in Dorset, he'll put you right.<br /><br />Truth is the first slaves sent to The New World were Scots, not negroes. So, from tabacco plantation to Poll Tax experimentation the Scots were there first.<br /><br />Ditch the Westminster mafia and restore your dignity.<br /><br />Steve (a friend of the Scotti)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-50679561785776954982012-02-21T13:55:33.245+00:002012-02-21T13:55:33.245+00:00I note that the Record has poached Joan MacAlpine ...I note that the Record has poached Joan MacAlpine from the Hootsman (with its 38,000 readers!!!)<br /><br />Cameron should have kept out of it for a bit longer. It's all starting to happen.<br /><br />And for all that Cameron wants to distance himself from the Dirty Digger, he'll have been upset about Murdoch's impression that he got a slap in the face on Thursday last from the FM.<br /><br />Oh yeah, I forgot about Rennie and Clegg. Easy done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-62161967303583082892012-02-21T13:46:48.204+00:002012-02-21T13:46:48.204+00:00Aye Dubs... I suppose I'm a bitty hard on him ...Aye Dubs... I suppose I'm a bitty hard on him at times, seeing as he managed to rid the country of Tories for 4 years, and the spectre of him has kept them pretty much where they are apart from Old Muddle down in the Borders... and that despite the cheery face of my mate Annabel.<br /><br />So yeah, good on you Michael. You're not such a bad old stick after all.<br /><br />There's a lesson though in the circumventing of Scottish leaders. OK, I accept that neither is very good...well both are pretty crap really. <br /><br />But then neither Miliband nor Cameron could be said to be first class either... In fact, they are pretty crap too actually.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-30366372109218806582012-02-21T13:36:45.477+00:002012-02-21T13:36:45.477+00:00Tris
Interesting comment in the Guardian re Murdo...Tris<br /><br />Interesting comment in the Guardian re Murdoch.<br /><br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/scotland-blog/2012/feb/21/rupert-murdoch-scottish-independence-sun<br /><br />One piece I found really interesting about the Daily Record and the Sunday Mail.<br /><br />"The Sun's main competitor, the Record, is an avowedly pro-Labour paper, but both it and its stable mate, the Sunday Mail, are said to be nervous that their anti-nationalist stance could be alienating some readers."<br /><br />The way the polls are going that could be the majority of readers.Dubbiesidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14351210091827242674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-1668743353363515162012-02-21T13:30:39.905+00:002012-02-21T13:30:39.905+00:00Tris
I still have a soft spot for Mental Micky Fo...Tris<br /><br />I still have a soft spot for Mental Micky Forsyth. Anyone who can single-handedly destroy the torys in Scotland cannot be all bad.<br /><br />Let him keep wittering on every time he speaks the independence vote goes up.<br /><br />It looks like Labour and the torys have finally concluded that their respective leaders in Scotland are second rate. Cameron totally overruling Davidson, and Lamont being shut away somewhere, presumably so she cannot speak.<br /><br />The Lib Dems of course realise that their leaders in both Scotland and England are second rate.<br /><br />Murdochs intervention is interesting, since for a political party there is no such thing as bad publicity. All the people who courted Murdoch (remember Blair and Campbell flew to Aus to grovel) will now be condemning him.<br /><br />Endorsement from the Sun could be priceless not just in the referendum but in the run up to the council elections as well. <br /><br />It could be "The Sun what won it" but as long as its won "who cares" Happy days are here again. Sing along now Niko.Dubbiesidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14351210091827242674noreply@blogger.com