tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post7266253569955677248..comments2023-12-20T19:39:29.865+00:00Comments on Munguin's Republic: CONGRATULATIONS TO ED MILIBANDMunguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-60219918773116752942010-09-28T01:37:33.663+01:002010-09-28T01:37:33.663+01:00Awww Bless Anon.
But he's 40. If he makes it ...Awww Bless Anon.<br /><br />But he's 40. If he makes it he'll be 45 when he's PM, which is about as old as you can hope to be these days for PM. Much older and you couldn't cope with the pace of 18 hour days, 7 days a week with only 2 weeks holiday (although David Cameron is lucky that he doesn't have to work that hard, as he's got Nick.)<br /><br />As for his accent... it's educated South London and not everyone can go to Westminster School or Eton to get elocution lessons.<br /><br />When he's talking cast your mind back to the glotal stop of Tony Blair when he was trying to appeal to the lower orders.<br /><br />Better I think than Brown trying to hide he's Scottish, or Major's estuary English, or Margaret's attempt at being posh, or .....well, really all of them when you think about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-15986384145301943102010-09-28T01:31:32.784+01:002010-09-28T01:31:32.784+01:00TLoTF:
Yes. If David had got rid of Brown, he mig...TLoTF:<br /><br />Yes. If David had got rid of Brown, he might just have been PM now. The Conservatives really didn't have a convincing win, and the Liberals lost seats. It is possible there could have been a Major-type Miliband bounce.<br /><br />Probably is bad that he was voted in by the unions, but on the other hand, the unions are not block votes any more. These are ordinary people voting. Why should the MPs (god knows they are useless) and the MEPs (money for old rope) and the MSPs (OMG, is there a brain among them?) have all the say. I don't get to choose my boss!<br /><br />But you're right, it is not good. It will taint him and weaken the force of his opposition to the million or two job losses to come in the next few years...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-4202439137560717542010-09-27T17:45:49.133+01:002010-09-27T17:45:49.133+01:00He is a child, and I have difficulty understanding...He is a child, and I have difficulty understanding what he is saying. Great start!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-68294578201929304752010-09-27T17:07:06.166+01:002010-09-27T17:07:06.166+01:00His big brother was tainted.
On 2 occassions he wa...His big brother was tainted.<br />On 2 occassions he was set up to oust Brown. On 2 occassions he bottled it.<br /><br />Still Ed didnt get the popular MP vote, or the party vote.<br />Railroaded in by the unions instead.<br /><br />You are right 5 years tops.The Last Of The Fewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176601225551322407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-5120168192566957382010-09-27T14:43:56.433+01:002010-09-27T14:43:56.433+01:00I dunno Dean. A lot could happen in 4 1/2 years.
...I dunno Dean. A lot could happen in 4 1/2 years.<br /><br />Times are going to be so hard that nothing anyone under 70 has ever experienced will be able to compare. <br /><br />I'd say all bets would be off!<br /><br />But yes Mr H would be right (if you take my meaning), but having said that, moving to the left from their current position is hardly a HUGE deal! On some stuff there were right of the Tories!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-10100489776247481302010-09-27T11:07:58.746+01:002010-09-27T11:07:58.746+01:00Tris,
Like Hesseltine said years back; Labour wil...Tris,<br /><br />Like Hesseltine said years back; Labour will be shouting "LEFT, LEFT LEFT!" lolz<br /><br />Red Ed has won us the next GE. In the bag, sorted. Its now ours to lose, not Liebore's to win. Red Ed can only win things with anti-democratic TUC support.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-21772825892010868082010-09-26T22:51:13.034+01:002010-09-26T22:51:13.034+01:00Bet you Pacific Quay dont use it in there politics...Bet you Pacific Quay dont use it in there politics shambles.cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-11680265391415566062010-09-26T21:56:29.725+01:002010-09-26T21:56:29.725+01:00http://moridura.blogspot.com/2010/09/ed-miliband-f...http://moridura.blogspot.com/2010/09/ed-miliband-friend-to-scotland-dream-on.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-2386398203548267012010-09-26T20:55:28.858+01:002010-09-26T20:55:28.858+01:00Thanks for pointing me in that direction CH.
I...Thanks for pointing me in that direction CH.<br /><br />I'm putting up the link. It's worth a watch.<br /><br />As you would expect of Terry Christian, he pulls no punches.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-19437487846874473432010-09-26T20:39:03.641+01:002010-09-26T20:39:03.641+01:00Moridura has an interesting video by Terry Christi...Moridura has an interesting video by Terry Christian a lifelong (ex)Labour voter who cant see the difference between all 3 parties. Political students need better lecturers!cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-82027448356623736452010-09-26T19:20:33.375+01:002010-09-26T19:20:33.375+01:00I think that David will be away soon Allan.
He&#...I think that David will be away soon Allan. <br /><br />He'll be looking for a job in the UN or the EU, I think. But it's possible Ed won't last, that's certainly true. I think there will be too many divisions in the party. <br /><br />To be fair that happened to the Tories last time they lost power and they went through Wee Wullie and then his dad, IDS, and then Uncle Dracula, before they hit on the shiny faced lad from Eton(and had the good fortune to inherit cousin Nick Clegg to join in... and bring his brains!!)<br /><br />I noted though, that Ed saad that he cares about "Middle England"...I suppose that means "ordinary people", but it does show his mindset.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-82544660741435067072010-09-26T19:07:36.514+01:002010-09-26T19:07:36.514+01:00Och, blethers Dean :))
He's about as red as N...Och, blethers Dean :))<br /><br />He's about as red as Nick Clegg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-50580227794095445262010-09-26T15:55:37.981+01:002010-09-26T15:55:37.981+01:00Tris.
That is exactly what I was saying. Ed will ...Tris.<br /><br />That is exactly what I was saying. Ed will appeal to voters in Scotland, Wales and Northern England but will be very unappealing to the south. I can't honestly see him lasting for 5 years, step forward big bro!Allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12264783996137140609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-78942668232912399952010-09-26T15:41:46.830+01:002010-09-26T15:41:46.830+01:00Red Ed, Convenor of the Labour Party, subsidiary o...Red Ed, Convenor of the Labour Party, subsidiary of the TUC Inc<br /><br />Bring on the next GE!Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-8769144473347265412010-09-26T13:41:20.881+01:002010-09-26T13:41:20.881+01:00Yes Munguin. Just imagine that. They were all chee...Yes Munguin. Just imagine that. They were all cheering Brown on... Brown, the nman that lost them an election.<br /><br />Mad.<br /><br />And then, if you listened to him you would never have know that this was the man who had got us into the financial mess we are in; this is the man who doubled the income tax on the poorest people; this is the man who expanded the gap between rich and poor in the country; a man who is responsible for the misery that Camerclegg will heap upon us in teh next few years.<br /><br />No, au contraire his rousing (huh) speech (huh) was a pile of self congratulatory invention.<br /><br />He really sounded as if he had lost the plot completely... then we had Sarah, his hero...<br /><br />Yuuuuuuuuk.<br /><br />And yeah, the "chair" as Harry called her was pretty crap... and that was bumming her up...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-33442518806716046422010-09-26T13:14:25.873+01:002010-09-26T13:14:25.873+01:00Afternoon Allan:
I think that probably you are ri...Afternoon Allan:<br /><br />I think that probably you are right that he is the wrong man for the Labour Party. Apart from in sparsely populated Scotland, Wales and the relatively sparsely populated North of England, labour, as a centre left party, is dead in the water.<br /><br />Ed is less likely to get them votes than Davie.<br /><br />But from the point of view of the poorer people in society, I think that Ed may be the man...he is certainly likely to be more of a champion of the poor than David who is as right wing as Nick Clegg!<br /><br />Frankly I don’t see David being much in the way of opposition to Camerclegg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-16517127237628767112010-09-26T12:13:32.187+01:002010-09-26T12:13:32.187+01:00And that woman that was chair of the NEC where did...And that woman that was chair of the NEC where did they get her? If that is the quality of women that Harriet Harman thinks should be up there one on one with the men then God help us all. Crap doesn't come near describing her!Munguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-21806690855070764672010-09-26T12:10:55.090+01:002010-09-26T12:10:55.090+01:00God talk about long drawn out. I wasn’t sure that ...God talk about long drawn out. I wasn’t sure that I hadn’t tuned in to the Oscars they amount of gush and self congratulation that was going on, totally sickening! Gordon Brown was the worst of course, as usual, he really is without doubt the worst of everything, certainly the worst PM in my lifetime. I suspect that if that proverbial cabbage with a red rosette had been leading the party in May rather than Gordon they would have won. Just look how well a leaderless Labour party have been doing in the polls and in the various by-elections around the place.Munguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-27402319175263601032010-09-26T12:03:43.288+01:002010-09-26T12:03:43.288+01:00Tris.
Ed Milly would had been my first choice if ...Tris.<br /><br />Ed Milly would had been my first choice if I were a Labour supporter and I think the traditional Labour voters will warm to him but as many a past Labour leader has found out, traditional Labour voters aren't enough to win elections.<br /><br />Step in David Milly. David like Blair could had offered something to traditional Labour voters and the middle England voters, just as Blair did. I think by electing Ed Labour have handed the next general election to the Tories on a plate.<br /><br />I agree we need an effective opposition to hold Cameron and his better looking half to account but nothing was more undemocratic than the huge majority Blair won which eventually lead us into an illegal war. <br /><br />I'm not sure how the Ed factor will play out in Scotland but there will be some very disappointed ex cabinet ministers. Doug Alexander said David will win and was the right man. Well I sense the knives are being sharpened as we speak. <br />Good day for the Tories, bad for a Labour party which wants back into power.Allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12264783996137140609noreply@blogger.com