tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post6766783712914138533..comments2023-12-20T19:39:29.865+00:00Comments on Munguin's Republic: MHAIRI'S SUPERB MAIDEN SPEECHMunguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-50562594870719618292015-07-16T11:09:00.312+01:002015-07-16T11:09:00.312+01:00Niko, I cannot remember when one person in Labour ...Niko, I cannot remember when one person in Labour has offered assistance to the SNP, all SNP bad stuff. I doubt you will remember the Speech that Alex Salmond gave when accepting winning in 2007, he said that the SNP did not have all of the wisdom to govern and would ask for help. Well Labour then went into petted kid mode and all they have done since then is criticize, not one word of advice has been tendered, even when they asked for something like the Apprenticeships they abstained when the SNP actually offered them more than they asked for. So please do not expect hearts and flowers over a Puff Piece from someone in the Scotsman (hootsman) is a tad hippocritical, may I suggest that John Beattie does what most people do, and put his money where his mouth is. I think the SNP have done a great deal, more requires the ability to set one's own budget and that takes, now wait for it Niko. INDEPENDENCE, oh I forgot, neither you nor he wanted that.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03930463301985234273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-45893237029428247612015-07-16T00:07:06.580+01:002015-07-16T00:07:06.580+01:00If the cap fits.... If the cap fits.... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-71109686159210765372015-07-15T23:46:22.942+01:002015-07-15T23:46:22.942+01:00Great speech, only a rampant fantasist would disag...Great speech, only a rampant fantasist would disagree, eh Mr Hothersall.jimnarlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02231790902689695587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-41591575171031665982015-07-15T23:09:07.368+01:002015-07-15T23:09:07.368+01:00I knew there was something these newspapers were g...I knew there was something these newspapers were good for....<br /><br />LOL <br /><br />Thanks Anon.<br /><br />Saor AlbaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-15378583754260501652015-07-15T22:21:03.159+01:002015-07-15T22:21:03.159+01:00P & J reporting at 21:30hrs 6 1/2 million!
Bu...P & J reporting at 21:30hrs 6 1/2 million!<br /><br />But its a newspaper. They are good for keeping the vinegar on your chips warm, but I wouldn't believe anything printed in one.<br /><br />Saor AlbaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-22698296929859767232015-07-15T21:10:14.333+01:002015-07-15T21:10:14.333+01:00Pa... thanks for coming to my rescue there. You...Pa... thanks for coming to my rescue there. You've known me long enough to know that I'd never say that to anyone contributing on the blog. I expressed myself badly (and you've known me long enough to know I'm good at that too!!!!).<br /><br />It's weird how the combination of the bulk of the printed press, the BBC and STV have managed to get it into our heads that it is good to denigrate people who are going through a rotten patch in their lives; to assume that a person who is ill is trying to cheat the least generous welfare system in the developed world; that someone unemployed WANTS to be unemployed... that foreigners are bad, wars with foreigners are good, and that its fine for one human being to get a helicopter to get him home to his bairns of an evening, and its just as good for a dad to be told to get on his bike and look for work anywhere in the UK, and get back to see his bairns every three months.<br /><br />People just believe it because it was on the news.<br /><br />I wish that IDS could sit in on some of the interviews I've had to do with people who are desperate, but who can't get work because of one reason or another...sometimes something as stupid as their address in a seedy area.<br /><br />Although I'd find his presence daily an huge strain on my normal 'politesse écossaise' it would be worth it to open his ears to the plight of people his department kills off every week. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-35679884897421320742015-07-15T21:00:00.708+01:002015-07-15T21:00:00.708+01:00Anon: I think I should have said ..."if ONE c...Anon: I think I should have said ..."if ONE can find too much fault in it, ONE is either.... blah." I just thought ONE sounded too Princess Anne!!!<br /><br />I didn't mean I thought that YOU had found fault in it, just YOU as in people in general...or in other European languages One!. <br /><br />I understood that the arsehole comment was not about Mhairi. I wanted to say Anyone who found her fault with her speech (I meant Duncan) to must be a right winger (he is supposedly Labour, but we all know they have some fearful right wingers) or anyone (one; he) was being spiteful.<br /><br />So I apologise for expressing myself badly. I had no intention to call you small minded or right wing. Duncan...altogether different.<br /><br />Hope that clears it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-30137300603110657412015-07-15T20:52:11.659+01:002015-07-15T20:52:11.659+01:00Thanks Anon.
There are confines set by the London...Thanks Anon.<br /><br />There are confines set by the London/English/UK government I imagine, just as there were with the trains. <br /><br />I imagine that the Scottish government would prefer to have trains completely as a public service, but the practicalities are rather different with a fixed and reducing income, and legal constrains put upon them by Westminster.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-20561400620214872002015-07-15T20:50:09.074+01:002015-07-15T20:50:09.074+01:00I read somewhere on Twitter (so maybe not 100% tru...I read somewhere on Twitter (so maybe not 100% true) that on all the different media they reckon that now 8 million have seen the speech!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-56864431013082988052015-07-15T19:21:45.030+01:002015-07-15T19:21:45.030+01:00Details about the ferry tendering process can be s...Details about the ferry tendering process can be seen at http://www.hebrides-news.com/labour-set-ferry-tendering-12715.html. As in so many other areas the SG have to work with what they inherited.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-50962414546310544492015-07-15T17:16:44.712+01:002015-07-15T17:16:44.712+01:00I'm know Tris just misread your comment, I don...I'm know Tris just misread your comment, I don't there are many who'd agree with Duncan's POV - he has a very specific way of thinking. Its very peculiar but also required in order to be an active Labour supporter.<br /><br />As for Mhairi Black's speech, it was excellent. Easily comparable to Tommy Sheppard's maiden speech. Her's could be more admired because Tommy is an experienced orator with years of experience.<br /><br />For me, the cognitive dissonance stems from listening to what Black, Sheppard etc say then having it rubbished and replaced by uncaring swivel-eyed nonsense. Not just stuff that is stupid and ill-considered - but stuff that is plainly morally & ethically wrong.<br /><br />The idea that you 'encourage' a person off benefits by starving them and their kids is something we're all supposed to agree with and allow past. But hell mend the person who suggests we do the decent thing and take these people with us instead of leaving them behind to rot.<br /><br />It really annoys me that they (WM/Unionists/Tories/Lab/etc) expect us swallow all that crap - their regard for us is so low, it cannot be measured. <br /><br />They take moral vacuity to new levels.pa_broon74https://www.blogger.com/profile/01915208411019621104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-16590008884838253222015-07-15T16:37:21.919+01:002015-07-15T16:37:21.919+01:00Wow. 2.5 million. That's more than the likes o...Wow. 2.5 million. That's more than the likes of One Direction gets!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-87566915743419963432015-07-15T16:18:48.900+01:002015-07-15T16:18:48.900+01:00I see that one of the SNP MP's blocked immedia...I see that one of the SNP MP's blocked immediately the Labour troll when he tried to follow the MP. He must spend all his waking hours on twitter.<br /><br />I see that Mhairi's speech on Facebook has now been seen by nearly 2.5 million viewers.Marcianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-88634693374811658282015-07-15T13:20:00.359+01:002015-07-15T13:20:00.359+01:00Poor old Jill... I think she's lost the plot. ...Poor old Jill... I think she's lost the plot. No academic should come out with unfounded nonsense like that. Either that or she's on the bottle or wacky backy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-710603377263580802015-07-15T13:18:25.060+01:002015-07-15T13:18:25.060+01:00He he... sell them to them Aucheorn. They got pots...He he... sell them to them Aucheorn. They got pots of money. About the only people in the islands who are getting pay rises...except bankers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-27932409635572750402015-07-15T13:17:03.925+01:002015-07-15T13:17:03.925+01:00I think that we shouldn't expect miracles from...I think that we shouldn't expect miracles from any administration. What we personally want is not always what others want and in any case sometimes not practical. I don;t know anything about the ferry contract... except that there was the Labour party criticising it, when they had done exactly the same thing.<br /><br />Maybe John will have more hands on views on it, as it affects communities like his.<br /><br />Of course we need some career politicians. We criticise the likes of Kezia for lacking in experience and yet wanting to be the leader of labour in the branch office in Glasgow.<br /><br />But the only way you get experience is by being elected and re-elected and serving in junior then more senior capacity. But I do think that people would have some experience outside politics before they go into it.<br /><br />In the case of Mhairi, I suspect that she was given the seat in the fairly certain assumption that it was a training exercise for her. Every party does it. And I can;t imagine that the SNP seriously thought that they could overturn the shadow foreign secretary, an MP of some 17 years standing.<br /><br />Mhairi pointed out though in the speech that she was experience of working in voluntary positions with people who are in need of help... that will stand her in some stead.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-68723807328827192015-07-15T12:53:52.305+01:002015-07-15T12:53:52.305+01:00Tris
She did well and the abuse is sadly just par...Tris<br /><br />She did well and the abuse is sadly just part of social media, and we all get it and we all have to live with it now. Hothersall is just a bitter nasty piece of work, he banned me a while ago when he couldn't win an argument and did me a favour as the man is just not worth the effort. SNP MPs do need to exercise care with some areas though as the current issue with the Ferry service demonstrates. There is a suspicion that an agenda of privatisation is on the cards through the back door with a 12 year contract, so when MPs are talking about public services they will need to be seen to be doing the right thing. Scotrail being an example for myself where we could have brought this into public hands and didn't .<br /><br />However, I hope that Mhairi, who is being seen as a future leader of the SNP, doesn't become a career politician. I really feel that that is huge part of the problem we face in our democracy. There are far too many MPs with no life experience outside of politics and it's not healthy. When I look at Dugdale, and previously Swinson, I just cringe. Bad decisions are being made by people who have rarely been out of the bubble, the current labour leadership battle shows this with Kendal, Cooper and Burnham, who thinks any of them are good enough to lead the country. None of them are electable and won't win a GE. <br /><br />So while I welcome different voices and different ages in parliament I will continue to hold the opinion that we still need more people with life experience in parliament and to be honest I would love to see more so called ordinary people in parliament if the parties would just select them.<br /><br />bruceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-81396359598984577102015-07-15T12:50:47.127+01:002015-07-15T12:50:47.127+01:00I've got some Shepherds whistles, I can let th...I've got some Shepherds whistles, I can let the MPs have them. The could show their appreciation with a wee blaw. That'd waken the buggers up!Aucheornhttp://www.yesmoray.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-82312350933165079522015-07-15T12:07:21.937+01:002015-07-15T12:07:21.937+01:00LOL no. Hopefully they will short lived representa...LOL no. Hopefully they will short lived representatives there!<br /><br />As they say: We didn't come here to settle down. We came to settle up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-44688263172183926862015-07-15T12:05:55.913+01:002015-07-15T12:05:55.913+01:00Yeah, I thought better of him.Yeah, I thought better of him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-6698400739173090322015-07-15T11:09:44.326+01:002015-07-15T11:09:44.326+01:00We all handle bereavement in different ways.
Some ...We all handle bereavement in different ways.<br />Some people lash out in anger and this appears to be the case with many British Labour supporters who have witnessed the death of their party in Scotland.<br />Of course,along with this is the end of the gravy train and future prospects.<br />Get over it.<br />Mhairi's speech was excellent and we have an amazing bunch of representatives now at Westminster (not for too long I hope!).bringitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10712089398887269381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-73288486294283589482015-07-15T10:51:23.748+01:002015-07-15T10:51:23.748+01:00Och Wee Dunky can always join the Tory Party, it i...Och Wee Dunky can always join the Tory Party, it is where they all belong. Disgusting but not the worst. Time that the University that has connections to that Jill Stephenson ditched her. Now if there is a disgusting person on Twitter I would say she is. Several others who if their remarks had come from the Nat side would have been pilloried.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03930463301985234273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-12933756416177315112015-07-15T10:00:18.893+01:002015-07-15T10:00:18.893+01:00Hothersall is a man thrown out into the wilderness...Hothersall is a man thrown out into the wilderness by the events of the last months. Everything he assumed and expected didn't happen.<br />But instead of rising to the new situation a shrivelled bitter soul emerged instead. Sums up the Labour we saw emerge during the referendum.Brian Powellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-33078991187225653722015-07-15T09:46:52.431+01:002015-07-15T09:46:52.431+01:00Thanks for the link PP.
Abuse on Twitter is one ...Thanks for the link PP. <br /><br />Abuse on Twitter is one of the bugbears that they all have to tolerate now. I heard that some English people were saying that they couldn't understand anything she said because of her working class Scottish accent. <br /><br />As I say, if you can understand fairly plain, well pronounced, clearly annunciated prose, then I can't see that anyone could have much to complain about in that speech. If you are indifferent to the fate of the less fortunate you might want to shrug your shoulders at it, but most decent people would think it was good.<br /><br />As for clapping... I'm speechless. According to the video that CH put up, you can show approval, but you cannot clap, unless you are clapping for the speaker or a war criminal.<br /><br />Why?<br /><br />And how go you show appreciation? And would that do at the Royal Opera House too?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-19430597487154938382015-07-15T09:39:35.905+01:002015-07-15T09:39:35.905+01:00I condemn people having a go at a man who was try...I condemn people having a go at a man who was trying to raise awareness of the foodbanks.<br /><br />Hunger is above politics.<br /><br />I'm surprised that there isn't a single example of this shown in the article though. It does sound a wee bit like the terrible campaign against JK Rowling which, upon investigation, turned up no more than a few tweets, or that against Susan Calman which turned up exactly none.<br /><br />All that said, the Scottish government, which is already doing a lot to mitigate the damaging effects of the Tory administration, must continue to make every effort it can with its ever reducing resources. More needs to be done, and in my opinion feeding hungry bairns comes well up the list of priorities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com