tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post6143849635453469167..comments2023-12-20T19:39:29.865+00:00Comments on Munguin's Republic: A TALE OF FOUR CONFERENCESMunguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-37289465543043698072015-04-01T16:07:19.023+01:002015-04-01T16:07:19.023+01:00Anonymous,
Which part of Nicola Sturgeons speech ...Anonymous,<br /><br />Which part of Nicola Sturgeons speech did you take exception to? It seems to me that it would take a black hearted pirate to find a flaw therein.<br /><br />Admittedly, I found Barak Obama to be nearly that good, and look how that turned out......<br /><br /><br />douglas clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11422060678908705962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-19456830296953859542015-03-30T22:28:19.097+01:002015-03-30T22:28:19.097+01:00Party conferences only interest me when there is r...Party conferences only interest me when there is real debate. Unfortunately the SNP is falling into the trap of everyone agreeing with everything. I don't like stage-managed events.<br /><br />I want real debate from the party. Let's have some honest and open criticism - constructive of course.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-3356887339707220682015-03-30T18:32:26.399+01:002015-03-30T18:32:26.399+01:00I think that that may a figure that is out of date...I think that that may a figure that is out of date by now.<br /><br />Who can tell?<br /><br />Let's see how things work out. After all what we want is a better life for our people. We may be able to manage that within the UK with the left-wing of the Labour party...<br /><br />But yet, the Liberals may do well enough to save the Tories; then we'll get nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-61805815157292534802015-03-30T18:29:46.616+01:002015-03-30T18:29:46.616+01:00Yes, I agree with that. My own MSP is a woman and ...Yes, I agree with that. My own MSP is a woman and a brilliant constituency member, who despite ministerial duties is always at the disposal of her constituents and works hard for our area. I wouldn't change her for the world, but she's there, and I vote for her because she is bloody good. Not because she's a woman.<br /><br />I understand that it is not going to be the norm, but something that could be used in exceptional circumstances.<br /><br />I just don't think they had to do it.<br /><br />It backfires sometimes. There's an interesting article over at Wings about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-66324674197455050172015-03-30T18:21:33.454+01:002015-03-30T18:21:33.454+01:00Meant for Mr MacKinnon-Thomson.Meant for Mr MacKinnon-Thomson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-62457423463909643362015-03-30T18:11:19.796+01:002015-03-30T18:11:19.796+01:00Tory grandee, Mr Ashcroft, did a poll just after t...Tory grandee, Mr Ashcroft, did a poll just after the referendum.<br /><br />He found that number of people who voted NO, only because they were promised devo-super-max by Gordon Brown, was sufficient to have won the referendum.<br /><br />We know that the private polls done for both sides, in the last 2 weeks showed YES ahead (as Alex said last night, a little too early). We know it for a fact because as well as Alex telling us about it, David Cameron told us that he (and his children dressed in tartan pyjamas) thought all was lost.<br /><br />So they came up with the vow, adn because all three of them were roundly disliked in Scotland, they got the Clunking Fist to come and deliver their scheme.<br /><br />Let's be honest, the way he sold it, it was really devo-super-max. Even I was impressed.<br /><br />But it turns out to have been diluted time and time again, The Smith commission, given only a few seconds to read each submission. The Tory/Liberal Cabinet changing the findings to suit Iain Duncan Smith and Tessy May. The House of Lords throwing out parts.<br />The Secretary of State for Scotland telling us that Gordon's promise of a permanent Scottish Parliament is rubbish, and couldn't legally be delivered...<br /><br />Limited tax powers that will be almost impossible to use...<br /><br />Well, the people are speaking.<br /><br />Labour lied to them. The Tories lied to them, The liberals...well, who cares?<br /><br />They don't want more Tories with Nigel Farage holding sway.<br /><br />But we'll see on May 8.<br /><br />One thing's for sure, Jim Murphy managed 300 for his speech. Nicola Sturgeon managed 3,000. I'm not even sure that anyone turned up for Wee Willie.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-50190007793575082982015-03-30T18:00:04.060+01:002015-03-30T18:00:04.060+01:00Yes, the BBC didn't want to see how enthused t...Yes, the BBC didn't want to see how enthused the crowd was, I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-67570662086666692642015-03-30T05:34:19.959+01:002015-03-30T05:34:19.959+01:00The Unionists are the majority. 55%.
People will ...The Unionists are the majority. 55%.<br /><br />People will see through SNP propaganda. Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-30978172119344593502015-03-30T05:06:31.357+01:002015-03-30T05:06:31.357+01:00We should spread that far and wide?
It is 'in...We should spread that far and wide?<br /><br />It is 'interesting' that the BBC stopped before that.douglas clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11422060678908705962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-79717615682185326282015-03-29T23:23:36.158+01:002015-03-29T23:23:36.158+01:00That was plain awesome...
JUST AWESOME
How did C...That was plain awesome...<br /><br />JUST AWESOME<br /><br />How did Cameron's reception go compared to that?<br /><br />How was Jim's reception?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-82256400181463500542015-03-29T23:14:56.175+01:002015-03-29T23:14:56.175+01:00Yes, I thin that's a really good point. I seri...Yes, I thin that's a really good point. I seriously don;t think that the women need artificial help. The ones that come forward are so damned good.<br /><br />Just look at the list of fantastic MSPs we have...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-78945089763738731142015-03-29T23:13:19.651+01:002015-03-29T23:13:19.651+01:00I would imagine they did know each other, but then...I would imagine they did know each other, but then Jim blotted his copybook...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-74589556122017870812015-03-29T21:34:21.170+01:002015-03-29T21:34:21.170+01:00Nicola's speech in full.
The BBC was just the...<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Awm_TU9i8U" rel="nofollow">Nicola's speech in full.</a><br /><br />The BBC was just there usual disgusting self in the overall coverage.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwacqb7_XB8" rel="nofollow">What BBCLabour didn't want you to see.</a>cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-54473568030820398702015-03-29T21:25:29.761+01:002015-03-29T21:25:29.761+01:00It was a good job that women only lists weren'...It was a good job that women only lists weren't around when AS was first elected.<br /><br />Education and in the home is were the root of the problem lies sort that first.cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-67873010600975747502015-03-29T20:29:17.553+01:002015-03-29T20:29:17.553+01:00I had that Nattalie McGarry in my house for five m...I had that Nattalie McGarry in my house for five minutes or so, once upon a time. Charming and interesting lady.<br /><br />When she left, she had my vote. <br /><br />I find it difficult to see the point of women only lists when we have such good women candidates.<br /><br />In the future we may well need men only lists....douglas clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11422060678908705962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-27131267786068492822015-03-29T19:47:20.359+01:002015-03-29T19:47:20.359+01:00I thought Jim Sillars knew Sarah Smith's fathe...I thought Jim Sillars knew Sarah Smith's father when her dad was leader of the Liebour party?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-20786623453218867472015-03-29T19:42:18.467+01:002015-03-29T19:42:18.467+01:00I am a white 53 year old male. We had a choice of ...I am a white 53 year old male. We had a choice of candidates for our parliamentary candidate of which 25% were female. <br /><br />I attended hustings, and selected my list on the basis of a number of things. Top of the list was that they lived in my constituency. Beyond that their ability as a public speaker, the relevance of their career to date, and their demonstrable loyalty to the party were factors. Gender was of absolutely no importance at all to me. Although I suppose I could have been slightly sexist as I have a notion that some members of the electorate don't like beards - so that perhaps positively discriminated in favour of women. We selected a woman, and I campaign for her.<br /><br />I feel uneasy at quotas. As the generations pass all manner of outdated thinking passes too. Discrimination is anathema to increasing numbers of people. Indeed it is to our credit that the bitter religious discrimination which blighted our country for years is being married out. We are more than we have been for generations, one people here.<br /><br />So I think its really only time, not rules which will see equal representation in all levels of society. I honestly don't think its worth the downside of being thought "there because of a quota" rather than ability.<br /><br />Oh, our MSP is a formidable woman. Selected and elected on her ability.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-45129545410526682212015-03-29T19:07:08.759+01:002015-03-29T19:07:08.759+01:00D
Yes white and male. But married to a black woma...D<br /><br />Yes white and male. But married to a black woman who doesn't agree with all female short list,s and work in a mostly female staff team managed by female seniors and managers and those whom I have spoken to don't want all female short lists. As I said you do not end discrimination against women by discriminating against men.<br /><br />BruceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-27376300972616692532015-03-29T17:45:48.514+01:002015-03-29T17:45:48.514+01:00LOL. I think they should give Conan a Blue Plaque....LOL. I think they should give Conan a Blue Plaque.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-61394154779526071052015-03-29T17:44:37.356+01:002015-03-29T17:44:37.356+01:00OK. First let me say that I'm very happy with ...OK. First let me say that I'm very happy with balancing the genders. <br /><br />But I worry about all women short lists for several reasons.<br /><br />1. They are patronising to women. You're right I'm a man. My colour is of no import to this question. If I were a woman I'd run a mile from an all woman shortlist, on the basis that I'd not want anyone to think I had to get there by positive discrimination.<br /><br />2. They can backfire in the community. I seem to recall that somewhere in Wales, Labour put up an all woman shortlist candidate. A man who had wanted to stand for Labour but who was rejected because he was only a man, stood as Independent Labour and won the seat. Labour lost an MP.<br /><br />3. If we have all women short lists becasue women are indeed under-represented in parliament, should we not have also all Ethnic Minority candidates lists, all gay lists and all disabled lists to mention but three sets of people who are under-represented.<br /><br />4. For the governance of our country we need the very best people. Best regardless of gender, sexuality, disability, ethnic origin... etc.<br /><br />5. If we do this in parliament, should we not also do it for any public service job... council employees, civil servants, royals, judges, established church people? <br /><br />I don;t mean to be obstructive but, I can see endless possibilities if we want to get a balance based on the % of any group in society.<br /><br />It is possible that there are other reasons for women, ethnic minorities or disabled people being under-represented in parliament, the High Court, etc etc. Just as there are more lorry drivers who are working class men.<br /><br />ANon. You raise an interesting point. There is a massive imbalance of extremely rich, public school educated people in the English parliament. Maybe we should introduce Middle Class only, or Working class only lists, because for sure, representation by toffs is hardly good for us.<br /><br />Once it might have been because only toffs could afford to be MPs. With wages going up to 4 times the national average and 10 times minimum wage, and expenses still to dies for, that can hardly be true any more.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-26034274376564060502015-03-29T17:38:39.961+01:002015-03-29T17:38:39.961+01:00conan
u Been at the Oranges just like clockwork.....conan<br /><br />u Been at the Oranges just like clockwork..<br />i hear they wont give him a blue plaque not important enough<br />totally wrong .Nikostratoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06581441869560921339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-60337335726933081472015-03-29T17:35:56.087+01:002015-03-29T17:35:56.087+01:00jimminy
I said it is in the nature of the beast
...jimminy<br /><br />I said it is in the nature of the beast<br /><br /><br />tris<br /><br />If only ..............still when i was young and life was gay (in the old sense )Nikostratoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06581441869560921339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-86006366605316147022015-03-29T17:24:37.885+01:002015-03-29T17:24:37.885+01:00Ah excellent, Brian.
It's almost as convolute...Ah excellent, Brian.<br /><br />It's almost as convoluted and inbred as the Saxe Coburgh Gotha lot. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-66384206654487927212015-03-29T17:07:20.424+01:002015-03-29T17:07:20.424+01:00Someone helpfully put this together last year:
&qu...Someone helpfully put this together last year:<br />"The BBC and the Labour Party in Scotland.<br />Ken MacQuarrie top of the tree in BBC Scoltand,<br /> Head of News is John Boothman, married to Susan Deacon, former Labour MSP and health Minster at Holyrood.<br />Head of online news, Tom Conner, he plus John offered media training to Labour Party prospective politicians. He bans all comments on BBC blogs.<br />Lorraine Davidson, used to be a spin doctor and was frequently on commenting on BBC programmes and is married to David Martin, a Labour MEP.<br />David is friends with Catriona Martin, who si a BBC reporter, formerly a Labour Councillor and friend of Jackie Baillie, Labour Health spokesperson in Holyrood, also Alan Clements, husband of Kirstie Wark. Kirsty and family went on holiday with Jack McConnell and family.<br />Then there is Raymond Buchanan, BBC reporter, famous for misrepresenting statement from the Irish Minister for the EU, on Scotland in the EU.<br />Raymond is is brother-in-law to Brian Wilson, who was a Labour MP, and headed the Labour for No in the 1979 devolution referendum.<br />Brian promotes nuclear power and is a non executive director of Amec Nuclear Holdings.<br />Then we have some returnees.<br />Laura Kunenssburgh, reporter, whose dad was a donor for Wendy Alexander campaign, who once lead Scottish Labour in Holyrood and is sister to Dougie Alexander, Labour MP.<br />Wendy is married to Brian Ashcroft, Director of freer of Allander institute, oft quoted on the BBC as an independent think-tank, which issues many warnings at us.<br />Then there is the newish BBC flagship prog, on Scottish politics, fronted by Sarah Smith and friend of Wendy.<br />Sarah’ sister is the daughter-in-law of Lord George Robertson, of ‘cataclysm’ fame and former Labour MP and Cabinet Minster."Brian Powellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-16005933284237871792015-03-29T16:41:20.460+01:002015-03-29T16:41:20.460+01:00Appy-polly loggies o my droog.Appy-polly loggies o my droog.Conan the Librarian™https://www.blogger.com/profile/01904339261121451779noreply@blogger.com