tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post5366687289358907676..comments2023-12-20T19:39:29.865+00:00Comments on Munguin's Republic: DAMNING INDICTMENT OF TORY PRIVATISATION MADNESSMunguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-7657870572637950982010-08-04T20:22:30.538+01:002010-08-04T20:22:30.538+01:00Spanish Water,
"Mmmmm. It's not a spelli...Spanish Water,<br /><br />"Mmmmm. It's not a spelling problem after all. It's a thick person problem."<br /><br />Nice to see that you can insult when your argument fails.<br /><br />But, what the heck, I'll try one more time: do you accept the hereditary guilt principle? Your responses suggests so...Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-29245084136580265512010-08-04T17:32:58.716+01:002010-08-04T17:32:58.716+01:00Dean said
" I feel no urge to apologise for ...Dean said <br />" I feel no urge to apologise for events and decisions taken before I were born."<br /><br />Mmmmm. It's not a spelling problem after all. It's a thick person problem.Spanish Waternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-71101643442469979972010-08-02T12:56:19.859+01:002010-08-02T12:56:19.859+01:00Spanish Water:
I agree, but I think we should kee...Spanish Water:<br /><br />I agree, but I think we should keep our utilities in Scottish hands!!<br /><br />I guess not everyone is brilliant at spelling.... My art teacher told me it was an artistic failing..... (the only artistic talent I ever showed unfortunately!!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-78756546445011667262010-08-02T12:28:02.173+01:002010-08-02T12:28:02.173+01:00LOL Dean.
Clearly Mr Spanish water believes that ...LOL Dean.<br /><br />Clearly Mr Spanish water believes that the sins of the father... or in this case the grandmother... etc.<br /><br />Talking of her, I see from the pic above that John Major has been left with the job of looking ater her. I see too that her poppy is bigger than his. She was prime minister for ever you know. Whilst he is a minor footnote in history.<br /><br />Actually apart from the privatization of rail, he didn't do THAT much that was THAT wrong from my dim and distant recollection, ...oh, apart from that incredibly Anglocentric view of Britian, born, I suppose of the fact that, unlike other Tories, he didn't even use Scotland for huntin', shootin' and fishin'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-92229107120450080732010-08-02T09:34:35.557+01:002010-08-02T09:34:35.557+01:00Spanish Water,
"Thatcher sold off all our vi...Spanish Water,<br /><br />"Thatcher sold off all our vital utilities"<br /><br />Yes.<br /><br />"You should be banned from commenting until you apologise for the New Right massacre of UK PLC"<br /><br />Free speech runs deep with you I see. Sorry, but I feel no urge to apologise for events and decisions taken before I were born.<br /><br />Tend not to believe in the hereditary guilt principle myself, unlike you it seems.<br /><br />"We should keep our vital utilities in UK hands"<br /><br />Agreed, in fact I have often called for the nationalisation of water, energy and rail across the entire UK.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-84868989471890768502010-08-02T00:48:39.731+01:002010-08-02T00:48:39.731+01:00Dean said " What is your point? That all indu...Dean said " What is your point? That all industry ought to be nationalised? "<br /><br />No. We should keep our vital utilities in UK hands and that you should try and learn to spell before blogging. Typos are normal but basic lack of spelling is not acceptable.<br />Thatcher sold off all of our vital utilities and people like you should be banned from commenting until you apologise for the New Right massacre of UK PLC.Spanish Waternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-33121235668414351692010-08-01T21:45:19.414+01:002010-08-01T21:45:19.414+01:00Deano
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/politics...Deano<br /><br />http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/politics/cut-out-or-keep-1.1045108<br /><br /><br />‘I remembered it happened in the 1980s’<br /> <br /><br />Wherever John Swinney’s axe falls, Geoff Earl knows it will not make a clean cut. The 53-year-old community psychiatric nurse from Edinburgh remembers the strain on public services in the 1980s, and how cuts in one part of the system affected other sectors.<br /><br />Today there are no convenient stands of fat, standalone projects calling out for the chop.<br /><br />Instead there are complex webs of interlinked and interdependent services between councils, health boards and justice services.<br /><br />Cuts will ripple through the public sector and throughout society as a whole. When unemployment rises, the NHS has to deal with the resulting decline in health. The workload in education and social work goes up as parental problems impact on children.<br /><br />If crime rises, the police feel the strain. Communities sink into poverty and neglect. Families resort to cheap, unhealthy foods, storing up problems for the next generation.<br /><br />And as strains build up within the NHS, the mental and physical health of its own staff declines – and on it spreads.<br /><br />“There’s a double whammy of having your own services cut back at a time when you’re being expected to do more,” says Earl. “We know at times like this there will be a large increase in mental health issues and that nurses suffer the same effect themselves because they’re under this extreme pressure.<br /><br />“There’s always a ripple effect,” he adds. “But my fear is it’s going to be a tidal wave, a tsunami, which could come over us before we can react to it.<br /><br />“I remember it happened in the 1980s, and we’re still seeing the effects. I’d hate to think we’re going back to that.”<br /><br /><br />never forget......your life will depend on itNikostratoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06581441869560921339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-76457594355176616932010-08-01T20:23:46.267+01:002010-08-01T20:23:46.267+01:00Spanish Water,
What is your point? That all indus...Spanish Water,<br /><br />What is your point? That all industry ought to be nationalised?Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-24974507331042552472010-08-01T20:08:23.921+01:002010-08-01T20:08:23.921+01:00Dean said ...
" it is the height of folly to ...Dean said ...<br />" it is the height of folly to sell the family rembrants to maintain a standard of living above a family means."<br /><br />Apart from the fact that Dean can't spell as usual I found this written by a commentator on his site with reference to the newRight selling off our valuable assets....<br /><br /><br />" British Petroleum was privatised in stages in October 1979, September 1983 and November 1987; British Aerospace in January 1981 and 1985; the government share in British Sugar in July 1981; Cable and Wireless in November 1981; Amersham International and National Freight Corporation in February 1982; Britoil in November 1982 and August 1985; Associated British Ports in February 1983; Jaguar in July 1984; British Telecom in November 1984; the National Bus Company in October 1986; British Gas in December 1986; British Airways in February 1987; the Royal Ordnance in April 1987; Rolls-Royce in May 1987; the British Airports Authority in July 1987; the Rover Group in August 1988; British Steel in December 1988; the Regional Water Authorities in November 1989; Girobank in July 1990; and the National Grid in December 1990.<br />Oh and British shipbuilders in 1983 ( not much shipbuilding now - apart from warships)Spanish Waternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-55959762838145779512010-08-01T19:47:20.883+01:002010-08-01T19:47:20.883+01:00Oh Danny... that's far too complicated for the...Oh Danny... that's far too complicated for the likes of us poor Brits. The education system here doesn't run to thinking through all these complicated posibilities...<br /><br />I'm not entirely certain what Denverthen's getting at here. I sense some emnity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-2725611570694231762010-08-01T19:24:32.536+01:002010-08-01T19:24:32.536+01:00I thought that the use of the name "Monkey-Pe...I thought that the use of the name "Monkey-Penguin" was a sly suggestion that "Munguin" might simply be a contraction...albeit with a bit of liberty taken with the first vowel. Perhaps no insult was intended....although I might be wrong about that. <br /><br />And then again, maybe the play on the name "Munguin" was simply so obvious that everyone pretended not to notice it. Sort of a sly literary wink all around. And now I'm more the fool for bringing it up at all. This is all very complicated.Dannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14450203101640592230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-31099973305770005602010-08-01T18:51:52.798+01:002010-08-01T18:51:52.798+01:00There are no grounds for privatisation of Scottish...There are no grounds for privatisation of Scottish Water.<br /><br />It is enjoying high levels of public support - so it must be providing a decent service and reasonable prices. <br /><br />Indeed, the only rationale for selling SW would be to fund unsustainable state -side spending elswhere; and it is the height of folly to sell the family rembrants to maintain a standard of living above a family means.<br /><br />Now, to clarify, I remain a supporter of returning the means of production to private ownership, and the management away from the alternative state capitalism [a feature of total public ownership economies]. That said, in this case there are now grounds other than ruthless ideology to privatise SW.<br /><br />The SNP need to keep firm, and refuse the pressure to privatise [I only wish Annie Goldie would resign, and take her fetish for privatisation, Thatcher style, with her].Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-9155257261555204352010-08-01T13:57:38.245+01:002010-08-01T13:57:38.245+01:00Scottish Water will end up like Scottish Power. Ow...Scottish Water will end up like Scottish Power. Owned by foreigners and used as a cash cow to keep the bills low in their own countries.<br />Eckie should just stop now and refuse to do London's bidding.SpanishWaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-10974661540130849972010-08-01T09:58:24.031+01:002010-08-01T09:58:24.031+01:00Thank Dean. I'm very sorry if I appear to blam...Thank Dean. I'm very sorry if I appear to blame the Tories for all the worlds Ills. But whatever way you look at it you cannot blame rail privatisation on a Labour conspiracy.<br /><br />I don't think I am a racist. Although exactly which race I am supposed to be against I'm not quite clear. I can hardly suppose that even using the widest definition possible Tories are in any way a race.Munguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-32823813779675448812010-08-01T09:44:16.581+01:002010-08-01T09:44:16.581+01:00Denver,
While I certainly think Munguin lives too...Denver,<br /><br />While I certainly think Munguin lives too much of his political life in the past [and frequently tell him so], I hardly think you can call him racist. From his blogging he seems a very pleasant chap; a tad too leftwing for my patrician tastes mind ;) but there you have it.<br /><br />But finally, yes, we Tories are more econonmically literate than the unreconstructed Liebore Party.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-79366513497769348872010-08-01T08:59:28.995+01:002010-08-01T08:59:28.995+01:00Denver: just one other small point. I’m intrigued ...Denver: just one other small point. I’m intrigued by your constant references to me as a “monkey-penguin boy”. As I am older than you I assume your intending to be hurtful with that comment. I have to say that your insults might be more effective if I knew what you were talking about. So you will forgive me for not being quashed by that comment. Although of course, as usual, I won’t expect you to explain.Munguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-77947575009698866672010-08-01T08:44:34.591+01:002010-08-01T08:44:34.591+01:00Denver: Thank you very much, yet again, for that i...Denver: Thank you very much, yet again, for that insightful late night contribution. Yes indeed comment is free and I don’t like to delete them or prevent people from putting them up (even the rude, ranting ones). I’m going to adopt your Mary Poppins like approach and not explain anything to you, because as you say you are not listening.Munguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-5660033348976408182010-08-01T01:49:58.036+01:002010-08-01T01:49:58.036+01:00It all happened, all the mismanaged privatisatons,...It all happened, all the mismanaged privatisatons, on Labour's watch. Pray the Tories can't do any worse (they hardly could). Pray their superior economic knowledge saves us from this this horrifying Labour legacy.<br /><br />But "Munguin": Discuss, eh? <br /><br />A better advert for the new (less murderous and disastrous) approach of this Coalition Government I could not imagine.<br /><br />It's all working pretty well in almost every rational person's view - apart from the die-hard zealot extremists like Monkey-Penguin. But twits like him are always, deservedly, in the minority, inevitably.<br /><br />But "Munguin"'s just another unreconstructed, diehard, zealot, pseudo-Labour, Scots-supremacist (racist) extremist, right? <br /><br />So noone actually needs to listen to him because he's so mixed up - and totally wrong.<br /><br />And noone does anyway.<br /><br />Comment is free...Jon Lishmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07272058035800593800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-35136765059635359562010-07-31T22:59:46.717+01:002010-07-31T22:59:46.717+01:00I'm afraid the water sell off in England was a...I'm afraid the water sell off in England was another total fiasco of the Tories making.Munguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-36664884337750403052010-07-31T22:38:05.123+01:002010-07-31T22:38:05.123+01:00Dean. You have to understand that the last time we...Dean. You have to understand that the last time we had a Tory government all we got was that kind of policy.<br /><br />Now we can't just take Mr Cameron's word that it has all changed.<br /><br />Mrs Thatcher did that dreadful thing to pensioners, as you said, having used their plight to highlight the terrible way that Labour had treated them in her election campaign.<br /><br />She got in and more or less immediately gave them a rise then took it back and more with her wickedness. People will have to wait until the Tories prove themselves before they trust them. Their record is not good.<br /><br /><br />Maybe they have changed, maybe they have not. We never trust politicians... not any of them... to tell us the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-32166807590590338332010-07-31T22:31:20.846+01:002010-07-31T22:31:20.846+01:00Tris,
I wouldn't privatise Scot Water just to...Tris,<br /><br />I wouldn't privatise Scot Water just to keep other govt big spends running on empty for a few more months...Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-15569036094641004732010-07-31T22:28:37.325+01:002010-07-31T22:28:37.325+01:00Tris,
Sorry, but it is not a valid point to accus...Tris,<br /><br />Sorry, but it is not a valid point to accuse Tories of being callous rightie b's as Mr Whatever routinely does given the contemporary facts.<br /><br />Yes Mrs T was tough, and ideologically extreme - but today is what matters and the polices we are implimenting. We have:<br /><br />Restored the pensions-to-earnings link,<br />Shall raise the threshold before paying tax to £10,000 by end of parliament,<br />will not freeze pay raises for anyone earning under £18,000 in public sector<br /><br />All that in under 6 months, now tell me again that we are cruel, tough, and still the "same old Tories" as 30 years ago [when incidently my political ancestors ended the pensions link, no being restored].<br /><br />Out of date, out of time, and rather pathetic to see the politics of 30+ years ago trump the reality of the New Politics of coalition, consensus and compromise.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-68890380302200172422010-07-31T22:25:36.418+01:002010-07-31T22:25:36.418+01:00What else would you use the money for Dean?What else would you use the money for Dean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-65226011569220347552010-07-31T22:24:17.965+01:002010-07-31T22:24:17.965+01:00For the record, I am against the privatisation of ...For the record, I am against the privatisation of Scottish Water. I'd echo MacMillan in this matter, it would be a case of "selling the family silver". But do not misunderstand me, I am not objecting to the principal of individual ownership, shares and consumerism [I am a Conservative], but I am objecting to the notion that you can use the funds raised by the privatisation as if it were income. It isn't, nor is it sustainable. <br /><br />No to privatisation of SW if it is to be treated as a form of income to be spent on government programmes, supporting unsustainable state spending. It is the very worst type of living outwit ones means, and it's how the UK got into this mess in the first place.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-71973908854433943202010-07-31T21:42:34.080+01:002010-07-31T21:42:34.080+01:00There's a great deal to be made out of water S...There's a great deal to be made out of water SR. I expect the business men just can't wait for teh profit margin they would be able to make out of our water which they could sell to England and, they could bottle and send to Japan to go with Scotch.... and all from a commodity that falls out of the sky on a daily basis.<br /><br />I hope teh government can resist the temptation to sell it, but if the SNP doesn't form the administration after next May I can imagine that Gray rubbing his hands together with glee.<br /><br />If it's sold look forward to water prices rocketing in one of the wettest countries in Europe.<br /><br />We must resist this. It was a disaster in England. As I understand it they used to meter it, so you paid for what you used... so people used less and that meant hygiene problems. Then they decided that they would flat rate it (I think my mate pays £5 a week even if he uses none) and the money goes into the trousers of the directors and share holders....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com