tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post5177962689404781761..comments2023-12-20T19:39:29.865+00:00Comments on Munguin's Republic: HAS NORMAN TEBBIT LET THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG?Munguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-22738254337043493772010-04-20T10:04:01.448+01:002010-04-20T10:04:01.448+01:00SR: That's hardly saying much for him. I'd...SR: That's hardly saying much for him. I'd rather have Judas Iscariot on my side than Peter Mandleson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-80458860192897226602010-04-20T10:01:42.066+01:002010-04-20T10:01:42.066+01:00Yeah Danny, they have tried to discredit him with ...Yeah Danny, they have tried to discredit him with being a bit foreign, always a bit of a problem in a pretty xenophobic island nation distrustful of foreigners unless we are ruling them. The arson thing has been raked over and someone tried to blow on it to reignite the flame, but it really is old news. I heard someone mention that he had slept with 30 women. The trouble with that is that a good selection of the women listening wished it had been them and a good proportion of the men were just p[lain jealous as they counted their conquest on the fingers of ....er well, one finger.<br /><br />The trouble is these accusations are coming from people representing parties that are so tainted that wee Nick’s not outrageous behaviour is not really noticed against their own.<br /><br />Even when you look under the skin .... Vince Cable has been a star of the recession. He was the one who warned about the credit bubble years before it happened. Whether you like him or not I’ve lost count of the times that people have said to me that they don’t much care who the next prime minister is but could they please have Vince Cable at the Treasury....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-80523494768858092322010-04-20T09:53:15.419+01:002010-04-20T09:53:15.419+01:00Danny: You make a good point about image. It has e...Danny: You make a good point about image. It has ever been thus, although people try to tell us that it’s all the new television politics, even in the days of the town hall meeting and old fashioned hustings, personality counted and so did looks.<br /><br />It always has in politics as in everything else. We like nice looking smiling, clean, well turned out people as much as we like the things they say.<br /><br />A clever guy may know all there is to know, but if people have nodded off after the first paragraph he won’t get his message through.<br /><br />Brown has a real problem as far as that is concerned. He looks awful, he sounds awful and he’s boring. Tebbit is frightening though. Mrs Thatcher’s trusty lieutenant (except when he was stabbing her in the back). It will be hard for him to live down some of the things he was responsible for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-38922423487723913572010-04-20T09:47:48.934+01:002010-04-20T09:47:48.934+01:00You know Dean, I think you are probably wrong ther...You know Dean, I think you are probably wrong there.<br /><br />I wondered how it could be that:<br /> with a government in for 13 years, creating a depression like they did, the worst in living memory;<br /> having troops killed in what was an illegal war by UN standards, and a hopeless war by anyone’s standards;<br /> a parliamentary party with its trotters in the trough;<br />a Lords contingent who had actually jumped into the trough and to hell with trotters;<br />topped off with a cabinet of lightweights;<br /> and a with a prime minister whose charm rating is on a negative scale and for whom everything ends in disaster, <br />that the Tories should have been romping home in opinion polls.<br /><br />After all they had 13 years to find the right leader, and finally it seemed as if at last they had;<br />they’d managed to persuade people that these days Eton wasn’t all that separatist;<br />that Oxford and the Bullingdon didn’t mean that they didn’t know how much eggs cost and what a bus was;<br />that although they’d had their trotters in the trough every bit as much as Labour, Cameron had come down like ton of bricks on the thieves;<br />that even though some of their members thought that people who travelled second class on teh train (me, for example) were of a different species that they were all going, duck houses, moats, and helipads with them.....<br /><br />But no, they were only ever around 10% in front of King Midas in Reverse; the bloke who could turn milk sour with just one smile.<br /><br />Then along came Nick. And he changed the whole game.<br /><br />I wondered at the British people putting up with the nonsense that was our politics; that for example the Tories needed 5% more votes to break even, that there were all these safe seats, that the cabinet comprised people who had been ennobled to bring them, that the parliament could end when the prime minister said.... that they could all steal from us and get away with it, that the four unlucky scapegoats felt that they were not just due first class travel, but above the law too and shouldn’t stand in the dock like ordinary thieves, or could get away with benefit fraud because they had a title.<br /><br />But the Brits are not THAT stupid after all. The Welsh and the Scots have got their own parties, parties that vote only on matters that affect their respective Celtic nations; the poor English always felt that they only had the big old tired discredited two. Then Nick came out last Thursday and talked sense.<br /><br />And I have a feeling that nothing will ever be quite the same again. When you have The Noble Baron Mandleson saying without being asked about it, that it’s way past the time that electoral system was changed, “I agree with Nick” has just got serious.<br /><br />You big boys will have to learn to live with the new configuration methinks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-26232726786921664592010-04-20T08:35:30.249+01:002010-04-20T08:35:30.249+01:00Despite Lord Norman 'on your bike' Tebbits...Despite Lord Norman 'on your bike' Tebbits wishes, I still think the Liberals shall die off- this is silly really, there is no way in heck they are getting 29% of the vote! <br /><br />That would be fantastical, absurd, not a chance. Mark my words, thursday night debate on sky shall be the real game changer when wee Nick Clegg finds himself out in the cold...following the great British tradition of raising people up so we can smash them.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-55767442974446908672010-04-20T05:41:11.160+01:002010-04-20T05:41:11.160+01:00Tris: After viewing Mr. Tebbit's photograph, i...Tris: After viewing Mr. Tebbit's photograph, it occurs to me that David Cameron should definitely not entertain the notion of asking him to be the Conservative Party representative in the next televised debate. Not that Cameron actually would of course, but...well...you get my point, about the nature of televion and image.Dannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14450203101640592230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-80341316493599324802010-04-20T03:17:22.248+01:002010-04-20T03:17:22.248+01:00Notwithstanding Cameron's fresh new face on th...Notwithstanding Cameron's fresh new face on the Conservative Party, there must still be some good old fashioned right wing Tories running around who, besides having a hidden agenda, would also know exactly what to do about young Nick. <br /><br />If you're going to adopt, even slightly, "American-style" campaign tactics like the televised presidential debate, then you might take the entire American political ball of wax....especially the tactics of the far right wing. There is nothing like simple character assassination to get rid of a pesky political rival. (Take note of the Barack Obama images at Tea Party rallies, depicting him as Adolph Hitler.)<br /><br />And it seems as regards Nick Clegg, that an American-style Tory would not even have to go that far beyond the pale. I finally shook last Thursday night's Nick Clegg stardust out of my eyes and did something so simple as read his Wikipedia Bio (which Tris had so sensibly and politely pointed me to.)<br /><br />*GASP*.....HORRORS!!!!!!<br /><br />I sensed the blood in the water when I encountered suspicious FOREIGN and aristocratic influences in his background.....not British aristocracy mind you, but RUSSIAN nobility. And we haven't even gotten to the good part yet. <br /><br />SEX with "no more" than 30 women (by his count). Youthful defiance of German law involving the destruction of rare cactus plants......ARSON surely, but also something of a crime against nature one might say. And *DOUBLE GASP* he DOESN'T believe in GOD! He's an atheist with small children under his care. Why, by American political standards, the man is a veritable gold mine of depravity.<br /><br />So American political consultants would know what to do about this dude. A good old dose of character assassination would be much more likely to land him in prison than in a powerful position in Commons. But then, in politics and probably most every other way, the British are much more sensible people than the Americans. Our political tactics probably wouldn't work there. Pity ;-)Dannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14450203101640592230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-27745038694813944962010-04-20T00:46:57.844+01:002010-04-20T00:46:57.844+01:00Well Tris,I'd rather have Norman Tebbit on my ...Well Tris,I'd rather have Norman Tebbit on my side than Peter Mandelson. Make of that what you will.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-77456268583902390742010-04-20T00:06:45.313+01:002010-04-20T00:06:45.313+01:00Aye Scunnert, and so you should be. Sophia may be ...Aye Scunnert, and so you should be. Sophia may be wanting to take you home to her mother!<br /><br />Oh, about Norry? Sorry Baron Norry....<br /><br /><br />Don't worry about him mate. Scotland won't have any truck with a self avowed right wing nut job like that!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-70031803082765667512010-04-19T23:57:20.611+01:002010-04-19T23:57:20.611+01:00Ahm feart:0(Ahm feart:0(McGonagallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14887321534801112949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-77239320384400486432010-04-19T23:49:47.659+01:002010-04-19T23:49:47.659+01:00LOL Sophia. I see you've been through them all...LOL Sophia. I see you've been through them all. Which one was the best dancer.... <br /><br />Looking at pictures of Jeremy he seemed to be very well turned out, in a sort of 1930s way. I suspect your mother would have been after him hrself. He has money too.. and he must getting on a bit!<br /><br />Do you think you could take Nicky the lad home to your mother?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-73105059394525516012010-04-19T23:47:07.937+01:002010-04-19T23:47:07.937+01:00Well Subrosa, to wach his or her own. I never had ...Well Subrosa, to wach his or her own. I never had the 'pleasure' of meeting him and now he has been made an aristocrat I doubt I ever shall, but I think of him as a nasty right wing Reagon-Thatcherite. The kind that brought in the culture of greed and self.<br /><br />I suspect that Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot had loyal lieutenants too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-92017039784552307952010-04-19T23:40:19.434+01:002010-04-19T23:40:19.434+01:00It's smashin' fun this, whether it aw blaw...It's smashin' fun this, whether it aw blaws awa' or no. Ye can hear the panic in Tory an' Labour HQs an' 'hing oan lads, it'll aw be fine' an' 'jist wait they find oot whit a liberal is'<br /><br />Dae they think we're aw daft? We ken whit liberals are. They're harmless creatures, mibbe a bit saft, sometimes a bit odd, like they dinnae get oot much, but nuthin' tae be feart o'.<br /><br />Leavin' Mr Thorpe aside, they've aw been nicely turned oot young men ye could take hame tae yer mother. Well no Ming obviously, that wid be like takin' yer granda hame an' no Mr Grimond he wid be near as bad, an' if ye took Mr Ashdown hame yer mother wid be askin' whit ye had been up tae an' if ye took wee Charlie hame ye widnae get back efter dark oot for a month an' she wid never believe ye had met Mr Steel at the dancin', she wid think ye had turned holy.<br /><br />Apart fae them tho, they're no bad.Sophia Panglosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10089164117446635962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-28245916050877360032010-04-19T23:17:58.681+01:002010-04-19T23:17:58.681+01:00Actually I think Norman Tebbit was a very genuine ...Actually I think Norman Tebbit was a very genuine politician. Some said that about his loyalty to Margaret Thatcher but there's no loyalty these days from anyone.<br /><br />He's a most courteous and interesting gentleman too. No pomposity or arrogance. Just a pleasure to meet.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.com