tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post3801070697308967000..comments2023-12-20T19:39:29.865+00:00Comments on Munguin's Republic: IN ORDER TO FINANCE THE TORY AUSTERITY CUTS...Munguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-31433307296138924212016-02-13T23:57:30.698+00:002016-02-13T23:57:30.698+00:00I think the EU needs reforming, but not the way Ca...I think the EU needs reforming, but not the way Cameron wants to reform it.<br /><br />I agree with Jim about the peace aspect though. Surely this is the longest period of peace in Europe (within the union) ever.<br /><br />Of course that hasn't stopped many of the countries getting involved in war after war OUTSIDE Europe. <br /><br />But I don't think it would be long if Europe split before we'd be at war again, INSIDE the continent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-26574280634156782002016-02-12T18:38:41.992+00:002016-02-12T18:38:41.992+00:00See above...See above...jimnarlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386665235191598525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-38182273614575012542016-02-12T18:36:30.847+00:002016-02-12T18:36:30.847+00:00Nope, I'll be voting to remain, but I do agree...Nope, I'll be voting to remain, but I do agree the EU ain't perfect. It has had a stabilising effect on the continent, reducing the likelihood of a pan- European war.<br /> It must however, look to it's peoples as people, and not a commodity. TTIP must be resisted, it has no benefit to the citizen, all benefit is aimed at big business; especially American big business. That is not what the European project was about.<br /><br />Scotland will be independent, its just a matter of time. I believe this to be true, furthermore I believe, paradoxically, it would bring Scotland and the rUK closer together, in an EQUAL ad-hoc partnership, of sorts.jimnarlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386665235191598525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-78759396343893527742016-02-12T18:30:31.341+00:002016-02-12T18:30:31.341+00:00Jimminy
I'll take it you are voting NO in the...Jimminy<br /><br />I'll take it you are voting NO in the eu referendum thus<br />ensuring the UK ejects from the eu and thence Scotland<br />ejecting from the uk............wots not to like<br /><br />After all if Scotland hasnt got the guts to leave the eu<br />they will never ever have the cast iron balls to leave the<br />glorious union......Nikostratoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06581441869560921339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-49590537322715739482016-02-12T18:19:49.693+00:002016-02-12T18:19:49.693+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Nikostratoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06581441869560921339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-4622186095713247702016-02-12T18:00:25.228+00:002016-02-12T18:00:25.228+00:00I can then assume that you, Niko the socialist, ar...I can then assume that you, Niko the socialist, are happy with permanent Tory rule? Labour are as right wing as many Tory governments of the past, including Thatcher's.<br />If we stay in the union, permatory is what we'll get, as well as treated as second class, subordinate, subsumed peoples.<br /><br />The way Europe has treated Greece, is the exact same as Westminster has treated Scotland since 1707.jimnarlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386665235191598525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-26575229955568287762016-02-12T16:25:32.137+00:002016-02-12T16:25:32.137+00:00The wifully blind nats
yeah right just hoe did ...The wifully blind nats<br /><br /><br /><br />yeah right just hoe did the referendum.............go ?<br />and next time if she ever get the guts to call it the<br />result will be the same no no no no no no no noNikostratoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06581441869560921339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-24784355449024379622016-02-12T15:43:43.384+00:002016-02-12T15:43:43.384+00:00Helena, Quisling is anything but tame. I don't...Helena, Quisling is anything but tame. I don't resort to name calling, ever (expect IDS). You are defeating your own argument, by implying that the No voters were either old or stupid. <br /><br />zogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-64145026847464548122016-02-12T14:15:52.143+00:002016-02-12T14:15:52.143+00:00https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-north-briti...https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-north-british-news#/story<br /><br />If you have a spare tenner, or even a fiver... you could do worse than send it that way...<br /><br />Latest video , where kez finds something she's actually managed to do...<br /><br />https://northbritishnews.wordpress.com/2016/02/12/north-british-news-scottish-labour-revival-imminent/comment-page-1/#comment-27<br /><br />On in the side bar....<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-53263737757737326682016-02-12T11:44:36.481+00:002016-02-12T11:44:36.481+00:00Zog: You are right about currency in my opinion.
...Zog: You are right about currency in my opinion.<br /><br />Although there were many people including Nobel winning economists who thought that it was perfectly sensible.<br /><br />As in so many things, I'm no expert. But there are countries all over the world who work with other countries' money. <br /><br />But there usually isn't the hatred that was stirred up by the Towel Folding permanent Black Hole that is the British Finance Minister.<br /><br />He was determined to give the impression that he would not allow it to work. Mark Carney said it could work, Tory ministers quietly admitted that it would be made to work, but Gidiot went on and on about how it wouldn't work and we couldn't have their currency.<br /><br />So, it was a weak spot and Salmond did very badly against his intellectual inferior Darling in that first debate. <br /><br />Despite that the Yes vote continued to climb until, as we said, Cameron had to do a volte face and too late to change the ballot papers, make a promise, through Gordon Brown.<br /><br />A Cameron promise. <br /><br />You know, like "The NHS is safe with us". <br /><br />Ho Hum.<br /><br />It's all working out nicely...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-85538497532375224072016-02-12T11:36:55.667+00:002016-02-12T11:36:55.667+00:00You would have thought that they would have graspe...You would have thought that they would have grasped the fact that they aren't winning hearts and minds.<br /><br />There must be an argument for the UK, but they haven't got it, or they haven;t got the people to put it across.<br /><br />Doesn't seem to work whether it comes from smarmy Cameron, telling us about OUR united kingdom, or the poor band of second raters that labour keep putting forward, of Carmichael the liar.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-7938484588949720922016-02-12T11:33:31.343+00:002016-02-12T11:33:31.343+00:00At the beginning of the campaign the polls pretty ...At the beginning of the campaign the polls pretty uniformally showed that the most popular outcome was "Devo Max" or some other way of saying, more or less everything except foreign affairs and wars. It's a bit like the situation with Jersey, Guernsey and Man, or between Denmark and Greenland or the Faroes (except that Jersey, Guernsey, Greenland are not in the EU).<br /><br />Cameron ruled out the possibility of that by excluding it from the ballot. He clearly did not want that, and he took a punt that the bulk of people who DID want it would opt for status quo. <br /><br />To begin with they did.<br /><br />But bit by bit they moved over.<br /><br />Cameron didn't suddenly promise Devo Max, Home Rule and the nearest thing to federalism that you could imagine, based on one opinion poll, by one point on one day. Private polling must have shown over a period a reasonable lead for yes.<br /><br />Cameron has admitted that he was worried. I imagine most particularly about himself and his career, and of course his "legacy". <br /><br />I think that it did have a big effect. Certainly Ashcroft's polling showed that it had a massive effect. Again, one poll on one day, but a very much bigger poll than most people could afford to do.<br /><br />We will never know, so there is not much point in arguing it. Even if we asked everyone individually, at this distance from the event it wouldn't be reliable.<br /><br />Brown? Was he used by Cameron? Did he take the opportunity to smack Darling in the face by seizing a Brown victory from the jaws of a Darling defeat? (Serve him right for criticising Brown in a money spinning book?)<br /><br />Who knows.<br /><br />The vow at this point has been watered down and watered down to virtually nothing. Except that it will cost is £3 billion a year. So much for Better Together.<br /><br />And where is Brown, or Darling, or any of the others who stood so firmly behind it? Clearly voting with the Tories. Or off out of the country making money at after dinner speeches. With real further interest in Scotland having made their money.. and millions of it... off our backs.<br /><br />I'm not quite sure what you call someone like that. My vocabulary fails me, but, I'm sure words would come back to me if I ever met them, which of course i never will, becasue they only operate behind closed doors surrounded by fellow travellers.<br /><br />Of course no one should ever call anyone names. Mr Findlay in the chamber, or me or anyone else on here. But it's bloody hard soemtimes!<br /><br /> <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-45681338893230121132016-02-12T11:15:47.420+00:002016-02-12T11:15:47.420+00:00LOL Well put!LOL Well put!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-15432176045787060902016-02-12T11:15:00.799+00:002016-02-12T11:15:00.799+00:00Niko. The labour leadership is for the EU, althoug...Niko. The labour leadership is for the EU, although I accept that there are some against. As I understand it the party split down the middle is the Tory Party with cabinet ministers and backbenchers alike absolutely opposed to the EU, mainly becasue they hate foreigners. <br /><br />Me, I couldn't care less what they do. I know I should, but I've lost interest in the lying gits' machinations one way of the other.<br /><br />If Britain is so clever, let it come out of the EU. The consequences may be the end of the union (good), the end of the special relationship, as Britain won't be America's voice at Brussels (good).<br /><br />I too thought the EU treated Greece with disdain and that they have made a bit of a mess of the refugee crisis...although King Solomon would have made a mess of that!<br /><br />But it has its good sides, and without it i reckon we will struggle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-49037928448051571242016-02-12T11:06:09.013+00:002016-02-12T11:06:09.013+00:00Oh lord. Is there enough time in the world?Oh lord. Is there enough time in the world?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-6858661857042203472016-02-12T11:05:29.550+00:002016-02-12T11:05:29.550+00:00Good point Helena. Reverse to the Tories ruling di...Good point Helena. Reverse to the Tories ruling direct from London, Niko?<br /><br />I'm disappointed in Findlay. He was my choice for leader against Murphy.<br /><br />I can accept that he might have been angry with Nicola, and I know that our parliament isn't like theirs with books full of arcane rules and regulations, but we can't have it descend to the level of a primary school playground. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-54682818672754784242016-02-12T10:03:00.069+00:002016-02-12T10:03:00.069+00:00Would you prefer the right word Zog for those who ...Would you prefer the right word Zog for those who sell out their country, TRAITOR. Look it up, I will continue to use said word for those who used their power to confuse and commit fraud on mostly Elderly or indeed some very stupid people. I used Quisling which is a tame word for people if you do not mind and as for Niko, check out the things I have to tolerate out of him. I do not use it lightly Zog, I use it for people who choose to sell out, those who like Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling who have gained much not to people who were simply used to get them the preferment they sought.Helenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12658585063615207731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-33601201440221973642016-02-12T09:55:56.168+00:002016-02-12T09:55:56.168+00:00Hi Niko, I thought abut what you said about going ...Hi Niko, I thought abut what you said about going in reverse and here is my take on your problem. Firstly way back if you were not in short trousers then, in 1997 the Scottish People voted for the reintroduction of the Scottish Parliament by a majority. This measure was introduced by the Labour Party, UK division.<br />Using methods designed by the above said party the SNP won a minority Government in 2007, was never voted down, and in 2011 won another majority term. Now Labour have been greeting ever since, not once have they even drawn blood on a Government they have pursued by using the Establishment connections. <br />The last straw for me was yesterday when Neil Findlay called the First Minister a Liar in the house, which show a tremendous disrespect for the office. That the Presiding Officer accepted as did the First Minister his apology has done nothing to quell my anger. I hope that the house will be driven by a stronger voice in the next Parliament and people who show disrespect for the House are treated as they should be, suspended from the house and a loss of pay. <br />Now go away and chew on that. I realize that like so many Labour people you do not do democracy but that is the way things are. We the people of Scotland spoke in 2011 and chose another Party over you, who think it is your fiefdom well it ain't. Helenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12658585063615207731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-65069782665622103422016-02-12T08:58:02.422+00:002016-02-12T08:58:02.422+00:00While the timing of the Vow might have been influe...While the timing of the Vow might have been influential, Salmond's failure to address the currency issue in the debate was also crucial. In a situation where he should have destroyed the BT campaign there and then, he blew it. <br /><br />Helena called Niko a Quisling in her comment above. <br /><br />zogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-72012151982367762892016-02-12T08:46:59.754+00:002016-02-12T08:46:59.754+00:00Aye Anon, and there's no right way of doing a ...Aye Anon, and there's no right way of doing a wrong thing.gerry parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13084355248869307762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-29919682656526235652016-02-12T08:40:24.827+00:002016-02-12T08:40:24.827+00:00With the timing, source and publicity generated by...With the timing, source and publicity generated by the "Vow" I think you under-estimate the number of previously "don't knows" who thought that it was a positive and satisfactory outcome for Scotland and voted accordingly. The currency question and the alleged threat to pensions were probably the factors that swung most voters. As for references to Quislings and Traitors I do not recall posters on here referring to no voters in that manner.John Brownliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03248027418059598116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-76093932325353461102016-02-11T23:21:07.499+00:002016-02-11T23:21:07.499+00:00Oh! I do so hope so!Oh! I do so hope so!douglas clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11422060678908705962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-92190144902422298992016-02-11T22:07:34.135+00:002016-02-11T22:07:34.135+00:00What Niko wants, like the rest of the unionists, i...What Niko wants, like the rest of the unionists, is his head looked. Their side lied and cheated its way to depriving our Nation of recovering its rightful independence. They know how they did it. And they lash out at us because they know that we know they did it. And they know they cannot keep the lid on the box much longer.<br /><br />They, and he, are on the wrong side of history.<br /><br />Alba Gu Brath<br /><br />Saor Alba<br /><br />Saor AlbaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-88975966598794177352016-02-11T21:52:30.403+00:002016-02-11T21:52:30.403+00:00I voted Yes, but I don't believe that the &quo...I voted Yes, but I don't believe that the "Vow" had as great an impact as some believe. It definitely swung some voters, but there were other reasons, including the currency question. Then there were voters who simply did not want Scotland to go independent for their own reasons, and had nothing to do with arguments presented by either side. Instead of constantly blaming the "Vow", why not look at the areas of the Yes campaign that were weak. <br /><br />Insulting No voters does not help the cause, and simply gives the media and the SNP opponents more ammunition. "Quisling", "Traitor" and other descriptions are frankly puerile and destroy any attempt to present an argument in favour of independence. Wings doesn't allow such descriptions and they shouldn't be used elsewhere. <br /><br />zog<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-26252821682351828312016-02-11T21:44:18.005+00:002016-02-11T21:44:18.005+00:00Completing his degree...?Completing his degree...?jimnarlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386665235191598525noreply@blogger.com