tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post2100902158915210347..comments2023-12-20T19:39:29.865+00:00Comments on Munguin's Republic: HUMILIATING CLIMB-DOWNS ALL ROUND?Munguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-71989440753948528252012-04-10T07:40:14.692+01:002012-04-10T07:40:14.692+01:00Nominedeus, that will be after Mr Moore vetted the...Nominedeus, that will be after Mr Moore vetted them for "quality" as per instructions from his leader in Scotland, David Cameron! For all we know they may have got a similar number to those reported for the Scottish one (12,000+)but after the "quality" test of "do you agree with Mr Cameron?" is applied that number goes down to 3,000!Munguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-34630128267977806012012-04-09T23:50:51.740+01:002012-04-09T23:50:51.740+01:003,000 out of 4,000,000 ish people, well thats alri...3,000 out of 4,000,000 ish people, well thats alright then eh, an obvious constitutional democracy majority there to be sure!nominedeushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06880828700080164569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-13286474321845659932012-04-08T14:39:24.619+01:002012-04-08T14:39:24.619+01:00Must make sitting down awfully uncomfortable, must...Must make sitting down awfully uncomfortable, must't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-19672588878657660232012-04-07T23:20:10.171+01:002012-04-07T23:20:10.171+01:00As Galloway infers Moore epitomises in his analogy...As Galloway infers Moore epitomises in his analogy that the arses in Westminster have 3 cheeks, am unable to question that.cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-49504236543509380712012-04-07T10:58:43.448+01:002012-04-07T10:58:43.448+01:00ta I'll check that out :)ta I'll check that out :)Montynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-79012109994600216892012-04-07T10:50:44.802+01:002012-04-07T10:50:44.802+01:00Monty...se pseudepigraphia (in Blog list). Conan ...Monty...se pseudepigraphia (in Blog list). Conan has a great post on the somewhat 'volatile' Scotsman poll!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-59525816162613815752012-04-07T10:39:08.716+01:002012-04-07T10:39:08.716+01:00Yes it's a shame there's no democracy tris...Yes it's a shame there's no democracy tris. An elected dictatorship is nearer the truth. You switch through the tv channels and see the tories and labour slogging it out with each other but you couldn't get a cigarette paper between them on the major issues affecting us. Perpetual war, more EU integration, more immigration , more spending on the global warming scam, more 24/7 surveillance and recording of citizens private and public thoughts, free rein for the bankers to rob us blind and then get bailed out by us, nuclear weapons etc...<br />Any alternative view ( SNP /UKIP etc )is ignored or attacked by the corporate media who support the whole sham.<br />Any 'solemn pledges' or 'cast iron guarantees' are quickly dumped on getting into office if they interfere with the running of the matrix.<br />Then in 5 years time the people go through the whole sham again and forget the previous lies and spin and hope things will get better. But they only get worse.Montynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-16965777040245758652012-04-07T09:41:50.171+01:002012-04-07T09:41:50.171+01:00It's a pity that we don't live in a democr...It's a pity that we don't live in a democracy Monty, isn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-1571405398866973042012-04-07T08:41:11.482+01:002012-04-07T08:41:11.482+01:00The best survey debacle has to be The Hootsmon'...The best survey debacle has to be The Hootsmon's online poll. It was asking if the independence referendum should be brought forward. It was 60 to 40 % against this view but their counter did a reset in the wee small hours and became 60 to 40% in favour lol...<br /><br />http://www.newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-opinion/4733-nocturnal-fiddlers-rally-over-at-the-scotsman<br /><br />The Hootsmon lost the plot when attacking the SNP for Amazon's tax status ( knowing full well that tax is a London matter) but this poll makes them look even worse.<br /><br />Newsnet Scotland has long since banned my commnets due to my 'alternative' view but they do great investigative stories .Montynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-47913106521299603782012-04-07T06:03:42.761+01:002012-04-07T06:03:42.761+01:00Tris its clearly a fiddle and Mr Moore's idea ...Tris its clearly a fiddle and Mr Moore's idea of "quality" is anything that agreed with what Mr Cameron told him it was, so the 900+ identical submissions from the Labour party were good "quality" while anything will a minor spelling errror or typo in a pro-independence one was poor "quality".<br /><br />What amazes me is just how shabby and transparent it is. I'm sure if the "mad Scotsman" (as the Tories like to respectfully call Alex) were gonna really fiddle the Scottish one it would be done properly and not in the cack handed way the English one has been!Munguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-41794425891908707192012-04-07T05:59:07.588+01:002012-04-07T05:59:07.588+01:00We shall see how we get on with our FOI request, t...We shall see how we get on with our FOI request, they should publish the results in full and then allow what scrutiny you will. I imagine I will not be the only one requseting the full result.Munguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-6166141237441098612012-04-07T05:57:12.849+01:002012-04-07T05:57:12.849+01:00The good old Labour party we can always count on t...The good old Labour party we can always count on them to trot out the dirty tricks bag and they just do not seem to have any morals at all, when they are quite happy to accuse someone else of employing a dirty trick they are busily doing themselves!Munguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-7118248541558702842012-04-07T05:54:41.294+01:002012-04-07T05:54:41.294+01:00Thanks Monty, I heard that the Tories want to star...Thanks Monty, I heard that the Tories want to start charging for FOI and of course they made all the doings of the royals free from those pesky requests to see how often Prince Charles wastes ministers time with stupid interfering questions!Munguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-7522822485554970882012-04-06T16:29:41.879+01:002012-04-06T16:29:41.879+01:00I am very suspicious of the fact that he reports v...I am very suspicious of the fact that he reports very little interest in a second question on devo max.<br /><br />With every opinion poll for months showing that this is the most popular of the possibilities before the campaign has even begun, and one last night showing something like 68%, if I remember rightly, in favour of the second question, it seems very odd that Mr Moore's respondents were so against it.<br /><br />Orchestrated campaigns like this aren't really in the spirit of the thing...but then who ever thought that the Tories would play a clean game?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-74860542862119332982012-04-06T16:24:55.577+01:002012-04-06T16:24:55.577+01:00I was surprised to read that the Labour party, bef...I was surprised to read that the Labour party, before it made a fuss about anonymous submissions, didn't think to look at what it was doing, to see if it could not be interpreted, as it now has been, as an attempt manipulate the result.<br /><br />I'm not sure that being anonymous or not makes much difference. After all if they wanted to people could put in multiple submissions using family or friends names, and quoting their email addresses. Many people have more than one email address, they could use all of them.<br /><br />Given that Mr Moore was going to scrutinise for quality, the submissions to his own rather poorly subscribed exercise, is it not rather strange that he allowed 900+ which had come from the Labour Party and had either identical or similar replies, to pass. <br /><br />I'm sure they were of the highest quality, having been written my the party bigwigs, but surely he must have doubted that they reflected the true feelings of the people in a proper and balanced way.<br /><br />Had 900+ submissions with views contrary to those of the Tory party come in, would he have thought them to be of such stunning quality? <br /><br />Hmmm probably not, methinks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-80349767054888657522012-04-06T15:10:28.928+01:002012-04-06T15:10:28.928+01:00Today on Lallands blog I read another academic is ...Today on Lallands blog I read another academic is disputing the interpretation,spin,lie (choose whichever word you deem appropriate) accorded to her submission<br /> How many more will be found to have been misrepresented (alternative word is available) if proper scrutiny is carried out?<br /> I fail to see anything of worth that can be drawn from this discredited exercisefairforfochenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17375775102962035239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-34685804916258706762012-04-06T13:31:29.001+01:002012-04-06T13:31:29.001+01:00Munguin:
One other little fact about the Labour w...Munguin:<br /><br />One other little fact about the <a href="http://www.scottishlabour.org.uk/haveyoursay?utm_source=taomail" rel="nofollow">Labour webform</a>. In the form they say submissions are now not going to the UK consultation as that has been closed.<br /><br />But if you go and look at the code for the site there is a line which still contains two email addresses rather than the one you would expect if the email for the UK consultation had been removed.<br /><br />This is the line.<br /><br /><input type="hidden" name="RecipientsAddresses" value="referendum@scotland.gsi.gov.uk haveyoursay@labour.org.uk" /><br /><br />In other words the Labour party appears to have been sending a copy of every submission and its personal details to an email account it owns and has probably been doing that from the start.<br /><br />That's a clear breach of the Data Protection act.DougtheDughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02952281599715356995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-33043278323630036532012-04-06T13:18:45.735+01:002012-04-06T13:18:45.735+01:00Good luck with your FOI request tris.
These FOI...Good luck with your FOI request tris.<br />These FOI's are too helpful to the people so there are plans afoot to water down the laws and make it harder to find out what's happening. Sadly the Scottish Government are ahead of the curve and are busily deleting judgements etc.<br />I remember the much aclaimed 'concensus' by 3,000 scientists that the world was warming up was debunked when it was found that only 59 scientists had actually responded and only the questions that were favourable to the global warming scammers were actually used in the results. <br />The same will happen with this survey.Montynoreply@blogger.com