tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post1600548819665678397..comments2023-12-20T19:39:29.865+00:00Comments on Munguin's Republic: RECESSION? WHAT RECESSION?Munguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-36539763127646077832010-11-20T16:43:19.689+00:002010-11-20T16:43:19.689+00:00You summarize the situation perfectly as ever Dund...You summarize the situation perfectly as ever Dundee....<br /><br />We could deal with the whole problem of deficit by getting the tax avoiders and tax evaders to pay their tax for a few years. You know, what they owe, nothing more. Then of course, as a matter of keeping things equal, have a go at the poor whose lives are made a little less miserable by diddling the welfare system. Cut them back too and add anotehr billion to the 120 billion you mention. Why not? it won't make any difference to the finances, but it won't half make the Daily Mail readers happy, and that's what counts with this lot.<br /><br />Government by Daily Mail headlines.<br /><br />We are, after all, all in this together ... aren't we?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-19678333552045610152010-11-20T12:19:32.632+00:002010-11-20T12:19:32.632+00:00Dean -
Let me say it one more time.
It's about...Dean -<br />Let me say it one more time.<br />It's about the relative effort given to tackling the welfare state at one side for potential gains of around 1bn a year, and tax evasion and avoidance for figures no one really knows but go and look around and you'll find figures ranging all the way up to the possibility of 120bn (that from a former Thatcher advisor too).<br /><br />So possible orders of magnitude difference etween the two sums to be recovered.<br /><br />Effort for each would surely be the same way round yes? with orders of magnitude more effort being put into recovering from the larger pot.<br /><br />But it isn't. We are completely refactoring the welfare state on the one hand at the same time as we are going to make a potential new 1/2 million unemployed, while on the other hand they aren't closing the loopholes that allow avoidance and when requiring 3rd parties (e.g. Switzerland) to assist in the prevention of tax scams, a polite refusal by the 3rd party is enough to halt it.<br /><br />Simply throwing 900m at the well-oiled machine that isn't HMRC, is clearly enought to statisfy a tory that the govt are going hell for leather on this, but it's the opposite for anyone who cares to actually look at the whole picture.somepapfaedundeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-91769467732311661412010-11-20T00:27:10.106+00:002010-11-20T00:27:10.106+00:00I've just noticed, that poor lad has a waistco...I've just noticed, that poor lad has a waistcoat on which the two sides don't match. It's like his gran has sewn two old ones together.... What a damned shame...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-69870347520994565912010-11-20T00:25:28.827+00:002010-11-20T00:25:28.827+00:00That sounds rude Monty....
night mate!That sounds rude Monty....<br /><br />night mate!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-12484174269156826132010-11-20T00:20:39.625+00:002010-11-20T00:20:39.625+00:00tris..
I could peel an orange in my pocket.
Dean...tris..<br /><br />I could peel an orange in my pocket.<br /><br />Dean..<br /><br />That looked good wine but their wine is dearer than Laithwaites who I use. Plus Caspar and Victoria Bowe sound a bit poncy. One plays hockey while the other does fly fishing and cricket.<br /><br />Off to kip. Up early tomorrow for polo.<br />Night AllMontaguenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-21213281545053615382010-11-20T00:11:35.762+00:002010-11-20T00:11:35.762+00:00That's a bit nearer my price range Dean...That's a bit nearer my price range Dean...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-57939498340408802812010-11-20T00:09:59.456+00:002010-11-20T00:09:59.456+00:00Tightwad MontyTightwad MontyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-28804268924833199712010-11-20T00:09:33.910+00:002010-11-20T00:09:33.910+00:00Yes, Dean, but do tehy sell it in Roux...?
That&#...Yes, Dean, but do tehy sell it in Roux...?<br /><br />That's the question :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-24937113705887909072010-11-20T00:08:21.878+00:002010-11-20T00:08:21.878+00:00"You could opt for a single glass of wine tho..."You could opt for a single glass of wine though"<br /><br />No, buy a bottle, there are plenty of lovely wines. Here is a lovely Hungarian one called 'Kekfrankos'. I bought a bottle once a while back, here; I shall even give you the website [suitably called 'The Daily Drinker']:<br /><br />http://www.thedailydrinker.co.uk/product/20/2008_Kekfrankos_Sopron<br /><br />Some lovely ones on that website, and reliable too.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-75149321019677184182010-11-20T00:02:08.428+00:002010-11-20T00:02:08.428+00:00tris..
Bit tight for cash this week unfortunately...tris..<br /><br />Bit tight for cash this week unfortunately. My expenses haven't been processed since the meeting at Gleneagles.<br />Frogs legs ? Look better on the frog I reckon.Montaguenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-71487276919652217782010-11-19T23:50:43.128+00:002010-11-19T23:50:43.128+00:00Wait a minute... It's got Chav in it... yuckWait a minute... It's got Chav in it... yuckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-61972135707952204272010-11-19T23:49:57.355+00:002010-11-19T23:49:57.355+00:00I'm easy if you're payingI'm easy if you're payingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-68630445586555415592010-11-19T23:49:18.084+00:002010-11-19T23:49:18.084+00:00Oh dear, fancy buying wine by the glass. How very ...Oh dear, fancy buying wine by the glass. How very Deep Sea. ( I once had a glass of wine in there. it was like paint stripper. But the chips are braw, and the sausage bacon egg and chips.... mmmmm)<br /><br />Anyway, nothing wrong with frogs' legs. I had them in that place that used to be the Deep Sea, and they were brill. <br /><br />They do eat other things in France you know.<br /><br />Anyways, if you're paying we can go for lunch Thursday? OK?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-18587839442461285302010-11-19T23:47:16.369+00:002010-11-19T23:47:16.369+00:00Stop the bus.
Found this...
Hermitage
Jean Louis ...Stop the bus.<br />Found this...<br /><br />Hermitage<br />Jean Louis Chave Northern Rhône 2003 £1500<br /><br />I've been up there. It's near Dunkeld. Would have to try this instead of the Gosset Rose.Montaguenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-13223027409414731672010-11-19T23:41:38.683+00:002010-11-19T23:41:38.683+00:00tris..
You could opt for a single glass of wine t...tris..<br /><br />You could opt for a single glass of wine though. Gosset Rose is only £17 a glass and has a certain je ne sais quoi.<br />I'd have 'John Dory' for my main. I don't know what it is but have heard it mentioned on 'Masterchef'.<br />Wouldn't want the menu in French. End up with frogs legs and sweetbreads or something. Yuch.Montaguenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-70423890036972995052010-11-19T23:32:54.430+00:002010-11-19T23:32:54.430+00:00PS... I do get a little irritated though if I'...PS... I do get a little irritated though if I'm lunching alone and have meetings in the afternoon and they don't have half bottles. Such a waste pouring half of it down the sink.<br /><br />But heigh ho... when one must....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-5616746724566123262010-11-19T23:31:53.113+00:002010-11-19T23:31:53.113+00:00somepapfaedundee,
Less vigerous? What are you on ...somepapfaedundee,<br /><br />Less vigerous? What are you on about man! An extra £900m just for improving the fight against the tax dodgers - if you want even more money added to the already increasing budget for this fight, where would you get it from?<br /><br />Cuts where? On balance this is doing an awful lot. They are set to raise billions, just from this initial £900m stimulus to the fight against tax dodgers...then you have the revenues raised from other policies already announced like the bankers levy among others.<br /><br />Get real. The Tories are going everything possible under current circumstances.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-76999056816153494112010-11-19T23:30:45.709+00:002010-11-19T23:30:45.709+00:00Hum... It looks rather nice I have to say at old R...Hum... It looks rather nice I have to say at old Roux's place. Nicely understated; just the thing for Sir Humphrey and Lord Bow-tie.<br /><br />I see the Chateau Latour is only £5,200 a bottle. Quite nice if you don't have too much of a thirst at lunch time I always think.<br /><br />But the menu is in English. I always think it's a bit suspect if no one on the staff can speak proper French... don't you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-10433289276793065872010-11-19T23:25:07.588+00:002010-11-19T23:25:07.588+00:00LOL Night Dundee!!
Now I want some chips too!LOL Night Dundee!!<br /><br />Now I want some chips too!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-49808299567867536552010-11-19T23:20:32.480+00:002010-11-19T23:20:32.480+00:00Monty3 - lol! Taxi!
You're right to remind us ...Monty3 - lol! Taxi!<br />You're right to remind us that he excels in so many areas. He certainly is an stellar performer shining bright in the Labour firmament!<br /><br />So heartening to see the Labour party fighting fit and ready for opposition :)<br /><br />Also - couldn't have said it better re: Iceland defaulting. Everyone else pretending it's unthinkable is all part of the game, and you're also right that Ireland suffered trying to play the good euro citizen.<br />I'm pretty sure that austerity measures have demonstrably failed to pull economies out of recession throughout history, you can't pay off anything if your economy is shrinking.<br /><br />btw - you had had to mention a chipper! I'm dying for a chip roll now :(<br /><br />'Night all, ehm aff noo!somepapfaedundeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-44700617590119000122010-11-19T23:11:35.453+00:002010-11-19T23:11:35.453+00:00tris..
Just checked out what beer 'roux' ...tris..<br /><br />Just checked out what beer 'roux' sells and see they have Innis at £5 a bottle.<br /><br />http://www.innisandgunn.com/<br /><br />Their website say that Tesco stock it so think I'll live like a Lord tomorrow and get a case.<br />Sorted !Montaguenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-86891144883125562852010-11-19T23:06:02.956+00:002010-11-19T23:06:02.956+00:00You missed the bit of your 'full spectrum anal...You missed the bit of your 'full spectrum analysis' where the spin of the 'maybe 1bn/year each' recouped is counterbalanced by the 'still getting to avoid £40bn in switzerland' bit!<br />here you go - http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/oct/26/tax-avoidance-switzerland-agreement<br />That's the problem when people do read the facts, eh Dean?<br /><br />So, the tory party introduce biting austerity measures, and begin reconstructing the welfare state of the UK, and simply capitulate to the Swiss.<br />This is my problem Dean - yes they are doing 'something', but given what is happening to the rest of the UK, the pursuit of the largest parasites is far less vigorous.<br /><br />Further, it's not just about the pursuit of the parasites who are extracting the real wealth out of the UK - it's also about the sanctimonious preaching about how serious it all is while leaving the system that did it all intact.<br />Whatever else they do, good or bad, tories always defend the privileged. It is made considerably worse when the disparity between wealthy and impoverished is as large and growing as it now is. It is unacceptable.somepapfaedundeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-54113505993659352882010-11-19T23:03:45.996+00:002010-11-19T23:03:45.996+00:00tris..
thank you.
I've just noticed it was ...tris..<br />thank you.<br />I've just noticed it was 'Roux at Parliament Square' that the noble Lord was dining in when he had the Torygraph interview.<br />I had a look at roux's website. It doesn't look much better than 'The Deep Sea' to tell you the truth...<br /><br />http://www.rouxatparliamentsquare.co.uk/index.aspx<br /><br />£5 for 'nibbles' seems quite reasonable although you would have to taste them to be sure. £7 for a single malt is very good value considering the ambience and location.Montaguenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-43534601431841153102010-11-19T22:55:16.447+00:002010-11-19T22:55:16.447+00:00Monty: I bow to your superior economic knowledge!Monty: I bow to your superior economic knowledge!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-12950248513264150472010-11-19T22:53:11.930+00:002010-11-19T22:53:11.930+00:00Dean, I reported on the story about tax havens the...Dean, I reported on the story about tax havens the other day...so you can't say I ignored it. The total, if it actually is collected, is no more than £10 billion a year, when at least £100 billion probably £200 billion is being stolen.<br /><br />The Revenue is being starved of money, its experienced staff (the more expensive ones) are being paid off. They have already messed up income tax for about 4 million people this year alone. They haven't a clue what they are doing, and morale is at an all time low.<br /><br />The money from tax havens may happen as it is their officials that will deal with it.<br /><br />Internal tax collection is in the dumpster and won't likely get out.<br /><br />Mind you, I've heard that the chances of many of the other changes being anything other than complete cock ups, is low, because the people who have to implement the changes are overworked, under resoused and their IT equipment is woefully inadequate.<br /><br />The whole place is going to hell on a handcart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com