tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post1031096941787751299..comments2023-12-20T19:39:29.865+00:00Comments on Munguin's Republic: THE REAL COSTS OF THE ROYALS TO BE CUTMunguinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16475165830302054002noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-27832766969424692152011-05-30T19:04:50.444+01:002011-05-30T19:04:50.444+01:00Dean
The EU is totalitarian because it is graduall...Dean<br />The EU is totalitarian because it is gradually abolishing the nation states and concentrating power to the centre. Freedom of movement laws will slowly remove cultural identity in each country as we all become Europeans. Laws are being introduced that are streamlining justice, freedom of speech, media, health, employment and anything that effects citizens. The unelected elite have the power and money to buy off any dissent. Corruption is endemic and billions float around to be used to promote the EU project. Children are brainwashed to hate their history and culture. To bow to the global warming myth, to welcome 3rd world muslims into the EU with rules to outlaw any mention of jihad in member parliaments. Rules are routinely broken to keep bankrupt countries afloat and maintain the facade of a strong Europe.<br />It's all been tried before and failed. The Soviet collapse came quickly and without much warning. The EU collapse will follow the same path because the people are 600 million and the eurocrats are 600. And the people will win.<br />It's starting already in Greece, Spain , Ireland and Portugal.UKIPernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-78578288495458964192011-05-30T15:11:11.717+01:002011-05-30T15:11:11.717+01:00UKIP,
Explain exactly how the EU is totalitarian....UKIP,<br /><br />Explain exactly how the EU is totalitarian.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-11245273231887296082011-05-30T13:10:20.070+01:002011-05-30T13:10:20.070+01:00update..
The situation in Greece is worse than I ...update..<br /><br />The situation in Greece is worse than I thought. Private capital is flooding out of the country and the EU are planning direct taxation and seizure of state assets through 'privatisation' as part of the next 'restructuring' of it's debt. The endgame is gathering pace. I can't see the people sitting idly by while the EU helps itself to the country.<br />I see that the European Financial Stability Fund sold most of the bail out bonds for Ireland to China and that the Chinese are sniffing around Portugal like an EU trougher near to the eu gravytrain.UKIPernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-82025583971296390322011-05-30T10:43:43.964+01:002011-05-30T10:43:43.964+01:00Dean.
I'm pro European. I love going to Spain,...Dean.<br />I'm pro European. I love going to Spain, Germany, Poland etc on my holidays. I just want a common market with free trade like we were promised. Not this Soviet style totalitarianism that you're fond of. Using taxpayers money to brainwash our kids into believing in 'pro Europeanism'.<br />By calling us 'fascists', 'BNP supporters' ,' little englanders' and now 'middle englanders'( what's wrong with being a middle englander ?) you show you've lost the argument and highlight the depth of the brainwashing that you've had carried out on you. If insults are your reply what does that say about the quality of University student today and the quality of their EU teaching course ? From a vice president aswell. What can the quality of other EU studies students be like ?UKIPernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-80145914777567624372011-05-30T10:12:39.667+01:002011-05-30T10:12:39.667+01:00UKIPer,
The difference is that you assume my pro-...UKIPer,<br /><br />The difference is that you assume my pro-Europeanism is based on some character failing. I am not pro-European because I want to "fill my boots". You are really just unwilling to read anything which could come close to challenging your narrow-minded, anti-foreigner mentality.<br /><br />How is the weather down there in middle england?Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-2524435652461757782011-05-30T00:29:58.174+01:002011-05-30T00:29:58.174+01:00tris..
Can't disagree with anything you said....tris..<br /><br />Can't disagree with anything you said.UKIPernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-5322785176228355222011-05-30T00:26:27.210+01:002011-05-30T00:26:27.210+01:00Oh, and doesn't Niko blether through his left ...Oh, and doesn't Niko blether through his left ear!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-74255341138926721082011-05-30T00:26:00.151+01:002011-05-30T00:26:00.151+01:00Been over there CH... Good stuff LOLBeen over there CH... Good stuff LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-3909856010561698522011-05-30T00:25:40.978+01:002011-05-30T00:25:40.978+01:00Dean
We both know we can swap links supporting ou...Dean<br /><br />We both know we can swap links supporting our opinions until the EU cash cows come home. So I won't read your link as you would have no interest in reading my links.<br />All I'm saying is if you want to fill your boots and join the queue in the corridor, with hand luggage trolley, at EU HQ on a Friday morning signing out for the weekend then for goodness sake get yourself over there ASAP because it's slipping from your sticky fingers and you're chance to trough is going quickly.UKIPernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-22823167398678130802011-05-30T00:24:45.997+01:002011-05-30T00:24:45.997+01:00You should also remember that UK is in just as bad...You should also remember that UK is in just as bad a mess as many of the other countries in Europe and much worse than many others. And having the independence to sort out our own economic problems isn't much of an advantage if you have some dick wit who read history, but who has grossly inflated ideas about his own ability to do something about the situation. And is doing it all wrong!<br /><br />And what of Scotland? Stuck with an economy which is tilted for the south east of England, and with the idiot finance minister doing his very damnedest to drive it’s economy to complete ruin, because Scots don’t and won’t vote for his party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-63304095337868633272011-05-30T00:20:40.343+01:002011-05-30T00:20:40.343+01:00Of course UKIPer, if Brits had any guts, and the w...Of course UKIPer, if Brits had any guts, and the weather wasn't so incredibly mid winter, it's fair to say that our people would ...should, be protesting about what's happening to us.<br /><br />But we don't. They could run us through with their fencing epées and we'd just shake our heads and say "it's terrible, someone should do something... there ought to be a law...."...<br /><br />Oh and some of us, not desperate fans of the EU or the Euro think that Britain can stick it’s stupid money wasting ancient traditions right up its fundament. Traditions are almost always things that suit those with power and money.<br /><br />And God knows we have that in our corrupt parliament in Westminster. 85% of lords on the fiddle and sod all we can do about it because they are Lords... and the Commons all far too worried about their expenses to do anything much, but whipped and FPTP as they are, it doesn’t matter a damn what they do, because we are in an elected dictatorship.<br /><br />Worse still when the Queen dies we are going to get some Edwardian nut job with some idiotic idea that God sent him to be the King, and Mrs Parker Bowles to be the Queen... yeh Gads...<br /><br />I can certainly see why Europe would appeal to some.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-36082853657454653242011-05-30T00:05:08.682+01:002011-05-30T00:05:08.682+01:00UKIPer,
Let us look at Greece, Ireland and Portug...UKIPer,<br /><br />Let us look at Greece, Ireland and Portugal by all means :)<br /><br />For a start here is a nice link: http://financialbin.com/2011/05/12/more-not-less-financial-integration-needed-in-europe/<br /><br />Focus especially at the part when this expert explains that "it would be wrong to conclude that the crisis was caused by too much financial integration. In fact, the real problem may have been that there was too little financial integration."<br /><br />This is the reality, we need more, not less, integration.<br /><br />But you are right, many, many people do fear the EU, and a perceived loss of sovereign. Yet the real truth is that the absence of cooperation is the a sure-fire way of really losing our national sovereignty.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-61712053705486869822011-05-29T23:53:11.690+01:002011-05-29T23:53:11.690+01:00Dean
How to destroy the web of Debt Have a look...Dean<br /><br /><a href="http://golemxiv-credo.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">How to destroy the web of Debt</a> Have a look at Niko's Bar as I've posted a link to what is needed. If you believe that selling debt around countries to suit bankers and governments is the way forward for humanity then you will not be missed.cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-76358239219870125312011-05-29T23:51:23.627+01:002011-05-29T23:51:23.627+01:00Dean.
You've pinned your colours to the mast a...Dean.<br />You've pinned your colours to the mast and are sticking to the closer union policy as the solution to the euro crisis. But your view isn't shared by most citizens who fear loss of sovereignty and want to maintain their centuries old traditions of running their own affairs.<br />Both sides can't have their way so we're stuck with a half in half out muddle.<br />You must know you've lost the argument. Greece, Ireland and Portugal are dead countries totally dependent on the EU to run their affairs. Their population destined to pay for the failures of their leaders.<br />A Sunday night in Greece and thousands are protesting in central Athens. Wanting their self determination back from the corrupt EU. Another £38Bn thrown into the dark hole that is Greek debt this week. How much more can we pay to these zombie countries ? If you want your snout in the euro trough then I hope you graduate soon as it's all going to end Soviet style very quickly and as a shock to Europe and the world at it's speed.UKIPernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-27273655596905814422011-05-29T23:32:36.044+01:002011-05-29T23:32:36.044+01:00Cynical,
The crisis in Greece was caused by the l...Cynical,<br /><br />The crisis in Greece was caused by the lack of ever closer union, not because of it.<br /><br />If we had seen fiscal union, eurobonds then it would have been impossible for the Greek governments to have over-borrowed without ECB knowledge. They couldn't have got away with lying about their true level of expenditure-tax intake.<br /><br />..I can't believe that your inability to realise that the current problems can only ever be solved with closer union.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-20493103385582721592011-05-29T23:22:22.108+01:002011-05-29T23:22:22.108+01:00Dean Greece: Is The Euro About To Collapse?
Thous...Dean <a href="http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2566564" rel="nofollow">Greece: Is The Euro About To Collapse?</a><br /><br /><a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/thousands-protest-greece-austerity-4188907" rel="nofollow">Thousands protest Greece austerity</a> Peace in Europe Dean and this is just the start of ordinary people fighting against crooked governments within the EU who are being run by the IMF.<br /><br />As to your list of 7 Dean I am shaking my head in disbelief if you believe any of that and will refute at leisure as politely as possible.cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-39278093466121008232011-05-29T22:52:02.072+01:002011-05-29T22:52:02.072+01:00Cynical,
The benefits of the European Union?
1. ...Cynical,<br /><br />The benefits of the European Union?<br /><br />1. integration<br /><br />Integration protects and enhances the sovereignty of the people, and the countries which voluntarily choose to share and cooperate their sovereignty.<br /><br />2. human rights <br /><br />The EU is instrumental in ensuring that human rights are central to each member-states national legal system; from the Atlantic coastline to the borders of Belarus - human rights are held inviolable. <br /><br />3. Environmentalism<br /><br />The EU has been at the forefront of the fight against ecological catastrophe. <br /><br />4. workers protections<br /><br />The comprehensive chain of EU directives, laws etc summed up in the 'acquis communautaire' have been instrumental in ensuring that the worst aspects of capitalism are not rolling over ordinary citizens. <br /><br />5. Security<br /><br />Given the security challenges we face, the EU and its law and order harmonisation has improved our capacity to fight back against terror, illegal human trafficking, cross-border mob activity and sex-tourism<br /><br />6. Foreign policy voice<br /><br />As Europe becomes less central to global politics as we see the rise of BRIC countries, the EU can protect our interests at the top table. Not just be a puppet to one super-power or another as the medium powers of Europe have been/still are<br /><br />7. regulation<br /><br />Only at a European level can practical regulatory frameworks be instituted to protect us against future bankers, capitalists, and exploiters of the masses.<br /><br />The European Union is something worth studying, fighting for and advocating.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-55326380196881752592011-05-29T22:43:42.943+01:002011-05-29T22:43:42.943+01:00The European-haters predicted that a single curren...The European-haters predicted that a single currency could never be agreed ... then it was, they said it wouldn't be worth the paper it was written on ... then it became the global second currency, they said that it wouldn't last ... over a decade on it is still here. Now they say that it is the problem & cause of the economic problems in Spain ... whereas anyone with a brain realises that it is the lack of fiscal union and eurobonds which is chief culprit. <br /><br />Banana boy, you continue to live in cloud nine, and pretend that the EU is the cause of all the global problems. I'm sticking by it, and fighting for a more equal world.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-24304738156840073562011-05-29T20:18:37.195+01:002011-05-29T20:18:37.195+01:00To oppose the EU project, is to oppose equality, f...<i>To oppose the EU project, is to oppose equality, freedom, democracy.</i><br /><br />How come as I didn't vote for the president whatever his name is and when did New Zealand join or are they a dictatorship. You might support the EU but by accusing all and sundry names just because they aren't falling for the spin is childish. List the pros as you see them to see if they hold water.cynicalHighlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06034325908473006163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-83857621235966091752011-05-29T20:14:54.336+01:002011-05-29T20:14:54.336+01:00Banana Boy:
Thank you for that apology... althoug...Banana Boy:<br /><br />Thank you for that apology... although there was no need. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-37155574173774501182011-05-29T20:11:24.641+01:002011-05-29T20:11:24.641+01:00tris..
Yes sorry I'll stay cool.
Dean is jus...tris..<br /><br />Yes sorry I'll stay cool. <br />Dean is just lashing out at everyone as he's angry and upset that he'll never enjoy the EU gravytrain and unaccountable power to which he feels entitled.<br />It's all collapsing in debt and disorder before he can even sniff the money and like a teenager caught reading his big brothers porn mags he feels slightly dirty and embarrassed.<br />But we'll be here to catch him on the way down as he searches for a new career that doesn't involve flipping burgers.<br />Calling us fascist and BNP supporters because we denounce totalitarianism in Europe is just his way of letting off steam.<br />So we should forgive him.taxpayer funded banana hoodienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-90658681653302663072011-05-29T19:20:00.569+01:002011-05-29T19:20:00.569+01:00Oh and you don't need to go all the way to Bru...Oh and you don't need to go all the way to Brussels to fill your boots, as we all know and one peer found to his cost this week.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-61992094009962636942011-05-29T19:19:14.804+01:002011-05-29T19:19:14.804+01:00Come on guys, play nice. And no personal attacks.....Come on guys, play nice. And no personal attacks...<br /><br />Banana Boy: The EU is a part of our lives; there's nothing wrong with studying it. Someone has to know how it works.<br /><br />Dean: You came pretty close there to implying that the banana man was a fascist. To be fair there are a lot of Tories that don't care for the EU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-13899123801562634512011-05-29T19:07:47.424+01:002011-05-29T19:07:47.424+01:00Ha ha . Love it. It's been all peachy and peac...Ha ha . Love it. It's been all peachy and peaceful in Europe with our EUSSR keeping us out of bother abroad. Hey what's Ashton up to in Libya ? What was the EU doing to stop Blair's madness in Iraq ? What was Afghanistan all about ? Any news on Bahrain ? Syria ? Iran ?<br />I doubt if the working class feel too elated and full of fundamental rights in Ireland, Portugal , Greece and Spain. Last I looked they were out on the streets getting beaten up by their govts. Rumpey Pumpey should be in there sorting things out (joke).<br />Admit it you're a busted flush with your cushy EU about to crash about your head before you get your nose near the trough. You won't get a snifter of the dosh.<br />Get a proper job and stop poncing off of the rest of us.taxpayer funded banana hoodienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2092475090824666694.post-510890424235326252011-05-29T18:58:15.308+01:002011-05-29T18:58:15.308+01:00The European Union is only suffering problems due ...The European Union is only suffering problems due to the lack of further integration. <br /><br />The real cause of these problems are the nation-states. They continue to stand in the way of progress, peace and prosperity.<br /><br />As for your personal attack on me, I rather think that EU studies are vitally important. The EU has done more to protect UK working class fundamental rights than any UK government since 1979 has! The ECHR signifies a core, and binding commitment to human rights across this continent. A continent previously the cause of two world wars, mass genocide and untold human and economic suffering.<br /><br />It isn't about "filling my boots", it is about participating in a project which shall share the wealth of nations, will ensure quality before the law, and equality of opportunity at all levels of life.<br /><br />To oppose the EU project, is to oppose equality, freedom, democracy. Only fascists like UKIP and the BNP are of your way of thinking.Dean MacKinnon-Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08221192592535723681noreply@blogger.com